Does God make mistakes?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Alan McDougall, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    I am reading a book by Caroline Myss, "Why people don't heal and how they can". She says that that an illness can also be an answer to a prayer, an illness can physically take us on a path of insight and learning that we would otherwise never venture on; an illness can be an initiator for the broadening of personal awareness and also for understanding the bigger picture of life.

    There are cancer patients, recovered and terminally ill, who say that cancer has been the best thing that ever happened to them.

    Most of us are too lazy, too complacent to go out of our comfort zones and search for true happiness. Getting ill can be a way for the Universe to enable us to get out of that.
     
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  3. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    I'll not be juggled with:
    To hell, allegiance! vows, to the blackest devil!
    Conscience and grace, to the profoundest pit!
    I dare damnation.


    Too bad it only sounds good on film ...
     
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  5. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    LOL.

    Not quite sure if you were also taking a position here. I wasn't suggesting one take a stance, just that one note a state of affairs.
     
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  7. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    Ahem. Do you really think it is impossible for the children of non-theists/atheists to be religious? How long have you been deluded about this?

    Deciding to be insane is an interesting concept by the way. I, actually, think this is often the case, but you will find little support amongst neurophysiologists.
     
  8. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    NMSquirrel,

    Never gave God much thought.

    Why only when one becomes christian?

    I think it's because they feel it helps validate their lack of belief.

    jan.
     
  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Signal,

    I know that if I bite my toungue really hurts.
    If that pain isn't first-hand knowledge of reality, then what is?

    What does all of that mean in everyday terms?

    Do you have a city life background, or a country one?

    Why would you feel fear toward someone?
    Why would fear make you doubt your reading ability?

    Why do you describe them like that?

    So what do you do for kicks?
    If it's nothing. How do you pass your time a weekends?

    Yes you would.

    Why?

    Is your country predominantly religious or atheist?

    Is your family aristocratic?

    jan.
     
  10. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    i would agree with that. pain is often times humbling. having your life threatened is humbling. and humility (imo) is a prerequisite for seeking god, or seeking anything really. because if you're entirely comfortable, what's the point of seeking anything? you have everything you need and want.

    for some people, they appear to have everything they need and want...health, material possessions, family, job, education, fame, sex, drugs, whatever...and they're still unfulfilled. which could make them seek. or if they can't conceive of anything else out there, it could make them take their own life.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, I often pray that God will give me cancer too, so I can enjoy this wonderful learning experience that you get from almost dying.
     
  12. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    this is literally a sick joke.
     
  13. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Really? And, you know that how?


    "Wilder Penfield and Michael Persinger, both of whom have helped show that the brain can be readily and deliberately caused to experience things like well-being or even religious visions. It all centers around the right temporal lobe — the more sensitive a person's temporal lobe is, the more likely they are to report things like visions, mystical experiences, paranormal experiences, communication with God, feeling at one with God, stronger religious beliefs, and more.

    Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean that such experiences do not have an objective and external reality. It does, however, indicate that there is a biological basis for such experiences and experiments prove that it is very possible to have such experiences through wholly mechanical means. The burden then shifts to believers to explain why their experiences are different and what reason there might be to think that they reflect some external reality rather than simply the chemical process of their brain.

    Also of interest is the fact that people with a sensitive right temporal lobe are not only more likely to have stronger religious experiences and beliefs, but they are also much more likely to act on those experiences and beliefs. This isn't a trivial observation because studies have shown a consistent percentage of people, most of whom have had sensitive temporal lobes, are willing to kill if they believe that God wants them to. "


    Sure sounds like insanity to me, as defined "Mental derangement".

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  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    No Lori, THIS is a sick joke:

    "he tells me that he provides for all of us, and that it is our sin that causes us to suffer and die."
     
  15. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    "pious"...bleh. i prefer freedom. and if it's a joke, it's not very funny.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    You made a funny.

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  17. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    greed is the reason people starve on this planet Q. there are people sitting in a restaurant eating filet mignon and drinking wine, while there's someone digging in a dumpster outside. THAT'S NOT FUNNY.
     
  18. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    it took you a minute. you must be high today. haha. :m:
     
  19. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, defending your gods again even though you'll sit there and thank them for your abundance. Hypocrite.

    Then, tell Jeebus to feed them. What's his problem? Why does he feed you and not them? They probably would be satisfied even with a loaf of bread.

    "Give us this day our daily bread."

    Sound familiar, Lori?
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I'm at work.

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    But we have half-day fridays!
     
  21. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    yay!

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    what do you do for a living?
     
  22. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    yes it does. it's your usual scapegoat bullshit.
     
  23. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    i would have guessed you an engineer. you reek engineer. and i mean that in a good way. it's your sense of humor that gives you away.
     

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