The World's First Suicide Bomber

Discussion in 'History' started by Ja'far at-Tahir, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. Ja'far at-Tahir Grand Ayatollah of SciForums Registered Senior Member

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    That's right. This thread is about the tactice of suicide being used as a political/military/resistance tactic and the history thereof. The first known report that I could find was the case of a Mr. Rudolf Christoph Freiherr von Gersdorff, a German and whom was also Prostestant and those whom opposed the Third Reich. He was a German officer of the Generalmajor rank. He was the would be suicide bomber in a German military conspiracy to assassinate Hitler. Here is his picture:

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    Now, the purpose of this thread as stated is to discuss the use of suicide to eliminate a military or political target. Obviously, the modern implications of the above case are clear and I am not being vague in that I am directly referencing the cases of 'Islamic' suicide bombing. One could also include the Japanese kamikazi and kaiten and the LTTE ("Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam"). Discuss.
     
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  3. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    I don't really think weather change is an act of human, humans may did accelerate it, but, it haveb een happening since milliosn of years, deserts turning into forests, and the opposite, again and again.

    (that's not off topic right?)

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  5. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    A suicide bomb used to take out a military target is one thing, a suicide bomb exploded among a crowd of civilians however is simply a dispicable crime.

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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm first suicide "bomber" would have to be Samson. He killed three thousand Philistines and committed suicide in the process.


    Judges 16:26–30

    26 Samson said to the servant who held his hand, “Put me where I can feel the pillars that support the temple, so that I may lean against them.” 27 Now the temple was crowded with men and women; all the rulers of the Philistines were there, and on the roof were about three thousand men and women watching Samson perform. 28 Then Samson prayed to the Lord, “O Sovereign Lord, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.” 29 Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, 30 Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived.
     
  8. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    One only needs to read that account to determine its historical worth... or lack thereof.
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    When one decides to take their own life it only shows that they are...

    1. Mentally unbalanced

    2. Depressed

    3. Ignorant

    4. Easily manipulated by others

    Any way you look at it, suicide just doesn't make sense except to those who are manipulating others to do so for their own reasons.
     
  10. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    yes, he can maked a bigger difference, without bombing himself
     
  11. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    but maybe when they become totally desperade and have no reason to live,they would make their sucide creative, like saying, well, i'm going to suciede anyway, why shouldn't i do something usefull with it, like appearing on tv news

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    so he can watch himself on tv from he's grave

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  12. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    I'd say that this guy has the strongest claim to being the first modern suicide bomber.
     
  13. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    I couldn't care less about this difference the sheer act of suicide is what stands out.
     
  14. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    I do think it's better to die by someone else's hand rather than your own without a doubt. I believe suicide is a fatal sin according to all major religions if I'm not mistaken.
     
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