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Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by cn1986, Nov 18, 2010.

  1. cn1986 Registered Member

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    I'm a Chinese,I'm from China. I viewed several articles critisize China in your forum,It's Ok because I also want to know the shit of China so we can improve,but the most I can not bear is that your forum manager superstring01 banned winter2011,it's Ok if user disobey your regulation then you ban him,but why the reason is Commercial Spanmmer...then plus "FROM CHINA!!!RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!"

    What does this mean? I'm from China,then what?I should run for my life?why?give me a reason,a serious reason because I saw many banned reason listed Commercial Spammer...but IP from China should run for his Life because of ???

    And this is the judgement of you guys even forum manager.
    Is this forum a what?



    Check in your ban list:


    winter2011 superstring01 10-28-10 Never Commercial Spammer. . . FROM CHINA!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Culture and Perception?

    I presume you're familiar with the word "sarcasm". Try reading the ban list entry that way. It is a comment on the American tendency to be paranoid about China and the Chinese.

    As one who has fought with String on many occasions, and can expect to disagree with him vociferously in the future, I would simply note that this is well within the spectrum of his humor.

    Welcome to Sciforums. I might even be so bold as to suggest that crawling through the Ban List is somewhat depressing.
     
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  5. cn1986 Registered Member

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    Wow,"Humor",tough word. I'm sorry I'm dull Chinese guy who are not familar with this word and are not interesting enough,and I want to know when I made others laugh by "Humor" you,how would you feel?

    Hey,"World police",you should think hard who should be banned!

    And you said I'm familiar with the word:sarcasm,yes I admit,but you know what,if there is a chance I can swear that forum manager String here,you'd know I'm much better good at that.
    I show respect to everyone exclude who does not show me respect! I think this is a lesson taught in every country,esp. in your CIVILIZED country.

    Oh,the Chinese guy is too serious... Go F*** yourself,I'm here because someone insult me otherwise do you think I've nothing to do but argue with you? I'm a bored person but not THAT bored!!
     
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  7. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I'm sure those arguments will endear you to the forum management. Well chosen start.
     
  8. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    First off, String is not a "Forum Manager", he is a Moderator, the meaning of that here is someone that pretty much tries to keep "Spam" out of the forums. Commercial spam is the main problem here, we don't want advertisements here because technically nobody buys the crap advertised anyway through online forums so if anything it only degrades the possible service the forum offers.

    As for String being rude, okay you are right his method of applying his humour wasn't necessarily well thought out since it can be seen as hostile to a country or people rather than just an individual that he felt was a commercial spammer. In incidents where a moderator has banned someone and they are seemingly unreasonable then it's best to actually ask the Adminstrators of the forum to look at it with detail.

    Looking at the ban itself, it appears the SAME IP attempted to registered 3 different accounts, one was a username made of just numbers. It's possible it was assumed that it was a commercial spammer because of the multiple accounts being made around the same period from the same IP. It's a strong policy on this forum to stop "sock puppets and commercial spammers" that utilise more than one account, so it's likely that String might well have assumed that you were a spammer.

    Obviously he would of picked up on the IP and email addresses being from China which is why he was likely rude. The Administration of this forum will not agree that String should of been rude in this case, so it's up to him to apologise if you want an apology. You however can not hold Sciforums responsible for what it's members or "voluntary" moderators say or do, that would be like me blaming you solely for commercial spam existing.

    If you would like the previous username reinstated then you only need to ask, however it will have to be either the previous one or you keep using the one you have now. (That's not personally aimed at you, that is just site policy) If you decide to keep this one I can alter the ban message.
     
  9. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    cn1986, please consider the number of insults that are thrown at Americans, Australians, British, french, etc. This forum is known for being rude. There are gentler forums out there. If you want suggestions, send me a pm.
     
  10. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    So, a commercial spammer gets banned...I.P. addy happens to be in China...So, this guy gets insulted?....Am I missing something here?

    Oh, and congrats to String on his promotion to "forum manager"...LOL
     
  11. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Looking a bit closer at Winter2011, Technically Tiassa "bans" him from a post for "15th Global Chinese Conference on Computers in Education (GCCCE 2011)"

    Simply put the whole page was written in Chinese Characters which don't display properly unless they are actually loaded to the computer system viewing them. A science forum will predominantly use "English" as it's medium of communication, the reason for this you can blame on the past lazy imperialist English, however since many nations were taught the language over that period and because England once had a Science golden age it's kind of stuck.

    That's the main reason why messages of that type will likely be deleted and users banned straight away. As for what the body was about, without running it through a language translator it would appear gibberish.

    It is a bit odd however that String rewrote the ban.
     
  12. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Stereotyping people is wrong.
    What kind of stuff do you sell, cn1986?
    I hope it's not shoes.
     
  13. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Mummy, I spent my first day at sciforums today.
    I think they were being cruel.
    Why do they do that Mummy?

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    That's just the way people are, son.
     
  14. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    We have another poster from China?

    Run for your lives!!!
     
  15. cn1986 Registered Member

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    Hey,I'm sorry I dont know how to say Moderator in English so I use Forum manager,but Moderator is what I mean,as you know,I'm not native English speaker.
    Again,I do not have any opinion about you ban people,if they are not obeying the rule here,they should be banned,actually myself hate ads everywhere.
    I'm just got angry because he bans everybody with the reason"commercial spamer" but for Chinese: he said"From China, Run for your life."
    Then I sign up and write this thread.
    I know you may think why I just being so sensitive,to see my thread now,I admit that I acted too sensitive,but you know how I got your website address?
    First I apoligize for my being rude and too sensitive. Maybe I need read more articles in this forum,I got sciforums address by googling: Evil China. Then I read a thread in this forum,I'm sorry I can not list that link here,it saying I should post above 20 to write a url link. And I randomly click ban list and then I found that sentence so suddenly I just can not bear that.

    Finally,why you think I am the one who has been banned? Because you said:"If you would like the previous username reinstated then you only need to ask" I even got your website address randomly searching.
    Did I say anything about String banned this id for wrong reason?
    Now I found argue with some Western people about our politics are really funny,I do not know if I can argue with them here?If not,can anyone tell me where most criticize China articles from? I'd like to debate there though I'm not good at English. I'm just a Chinese,24,just graduated,who loves his people.
    Again,I certainly know debating is not swearing,sorry for my rude,I just lost control at that time!
     
  16. cn1986 Registered Member

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    How did you know that? Wow,I sell shoes,what kind of shoes you want? I gusee a high-heeled? Cuz I know your wife has lost one of her pump in my place.
    I'm trying to act normal here,since you tell me this is common here,if any insult,please do not being that stereotype.
     
  17. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    If it will make you feel better...we can make fun of some other countries.

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    Damn them Aussies!
     
  18. cn1986 Registered Member

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    No~~~~nono,"Damn them Aussies" is too short,you'd better write a thesis!!
    Good for you! This helps a lot!!! Seems you are the only one here who knows me,even more than myself~

    So here is your student's theory,master:I f**ked your girl,how about I f**k other girls to make you happy?

    Hmm,I'm getting better with this forum thinking~You guys are really nice teachers~
     
  19. cn1986 Registered Member

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    I'm sorry I'm new here,I know I may acted too sensitive,and that has a reason,because I was reading so many articles telling bad things of China at that time,it's Ok with me because I know China has way to go.
    But when I randomly found a Moderator is doing so,I personally thought that is inappropriate.And with the emotion I had at that time,I overreacted.
    But I know I'm right!
     
  20. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    People make mistakes and when they do they should be told about them to let them understand what they did so that they will learn not to do so again with you. You have made your point and now they know but you must also learn that sometimes it is better to discuss what you feel rather than poke fun at others because someone poked fun at you. Constructive criticism is helpful and is necessary at times with those who can learn from the errors of their ways. Just try not let what others say bother you to much because at times they are only being sarcastic as has been stated here already. Enjoy your stay and remember that moderators are changed once in awhile as well.
     
  21. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, my mistake I thought you were complaining on behalf of yourself, or a friend not just because you happened to be upset at the country comment. Anyway the comments been fixed.

    As you can tell it's very easy to misread what someone has written, be it language differences or just a difference of perspective.
     
  22. ejderha Exhausted Registered Senior Member

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    I want someone to stereotype me now!

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  23. cn1986 Registered Member

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    I said I overreacted and I'm sorry for that,I should discuss with String first or at least say more moderate in my thread.
    And actually that's the way I am,as I said in my former reply:I only show respect and fully respect to the one who respect others,to the one who poke fun at others,I will let'em know that cost.
    I dont know its good or not,I'm just not going to change my style.
    All in all,thanks for your suggestion.
     

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