Is the black race more superior?

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by 420Joey, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Sickle Cell Anaemia. That is caused by a faulty gene, totally unrelated to the gene that regulates the amount of melanin in the skin.

    Sickle cell anemia is an inherited disease. People who have the disease inherit two genes for sickle hemoglobin—one from each parent.
    Sickle hemoglobin causes red blood cells to develop a sickle, or crescent, shape. Sickle cells are stiff and sticky. They tend to block blood flow in the blood vessels of the limbs and organs. Blocked blood flow can cause pain, serious infections, and organ damage.

    http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health//dci/Diseases/Sca/SCA_Causes.html

    Europeans, and by extension Americans have far more recessive and faulty genes than Africans due to inbreeding, but that has nothing to do with colour either.
     
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  3. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Do you understand the difference between a correlation and an absolute rule?

    Of course there are some people with large brains who are less intelligent than some people with smaller brains; but those people are exceptions. In general, a person with a larger brain is statistically likely to be more intelligent than a person with a smaller brain.
     
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  5. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Brain size and intelligence.
    Yes that may be true.
    So why is there no prejudice against people with small heads?
     
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  7. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Woops, yes, major typo on my part. Embarrassing!
    But both genes tend to occur in the black population but not the white population. It's absurd to say that there are no differences between the black population and white population other than the amount of melanin in the skin; there are in fact many, many well-documented genetic differences between the black and white populations (and between different sub-sets of the black population, and different sub-sets of the white population) that result in a wide variety of phenotypic differences.
     
  8. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    My guess would be that it's because brain size is an inconvenient thing to base one's prejudices on, since you can't usually look at a person and easily tell how big their brain is compared to other people. Differences in skin color etc. are a lot easier to notices, so they are more convenient for bigots.
     
  9. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    You mentioned the word correlation before, and that is the key.
    Yes, you may be far more likely to have sickle cell genes if you have high melanin genes,
    and you may be more likely to have whatever genes it takes to make you a good runner if you are Ethiopian.
    But these things: Ethiopian, Black, Runner, Sickle Cell, are genetically unconnected,
    although they are probably statistically correlated.

    I don't think we are actually disagreeing.
     
  10. arauca Banned Banned

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    I used to look into peoples eye and it they had brown eye , I associate them with people been full of sheet up to the eye brows .
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The black race is superior, but not more superior.
     
  12. arauca Banned Banned

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  13. arauca Banned Banned

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    Se how black man become White Caucasian man
     
  14. RichW9090 Evolutionist Registered Senior Member

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    Human races exist, contrary to what the PC crowd would have you believe. Races are mere geographical variants of a single species which are adapted to particular environmental conditions. Because they are varieties of a single species, they are not clearly delineated from each other; there is a great deal of overlap, and many intermediate individuals. Recognizing that those varieties exist is not racist; assigning value to individuals based on those particular traits (skin color, body form, hair type, etc) clearly is racist.
     
  15. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    There are many things you couldn't say even if you found evidence for them being true.
    Maybe in a couple of hundred years, it can be looked on objectively.
    We are too close to massacres caused by minor genetic differences.
    Rwanda et al.
     
  16. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    If it was more superior, that would be superiorer.
     
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  17. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @Rich --

    There's one more criteria that you forgot, that races don't interbreed with other races. The human "races" clearly interbreed with each other. But the rest of your post I agree with.
     
  18. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Forensic anthropology is part of what keeps it alive, since its former methods for discerning "race" from skull structure are still active -- even if their terminology, as well, has surely been revised to some extent. But especially due to maintaining a degree of commensurability with older records that may have to be consulted, which conform to a former descriptive system, in the course of determining ancestry and eventually a more specific identity for human remains, if possible. ("Determining ancestry", I assume, being one of the correctitude-speak changes for identifying a population that the remains are characteristic of).

    It may have been as long ago as the '90s that I vaguely recollect a science news article about a conference of biology-related and social scientists arriving at a consensus that race was myth, and then having a forensic scientist pop-up and jar them with a declaration that his particular branch of the field still operated under the framework and had effective means and procedures for arriving at such conclusions in regard to remains.
     
  19. D-9 Registered Member

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    I think that is too true. While there might be a few pockets here and there of people that are able to see this objectively, as a society/culture we are just not there yet. Not to mention all the crazy groups around the world that make true racism a very contemporary issue still, like this black supremest of the OP.
     
  20. RichW9090 Evolutionist Registered Senior Member

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    Arioch posted:

    "There's one more criteria that you forgot, that races don't interbreed with other races. The human "races" clearly interbreed with each other. But the rest of your post I agree with."

    You are as wrong as wrong can be. Reproductive isolation is NOT a criterion of races (or subspecies). Reproductive isolation is a charcteristic of species. Did you not understand what my statement of about fuzzy boundaries and many intermediates implied?

    Rich
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    You need a soul enema and a skin bleaching.
     
  22. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    You do repeat some pretty hideous bullshit.
     
  23. arauca Banned Banned

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    Why do you come with such disgusting things ?.

    I thing there are possibility sense such discrimination exist and i will believe always existed , So a tribe could separate different locking peoples and they would have to go on their own way.
     

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