God’s glitch in Eden. A & E had to break God’s second command to accomplish the first

It would be nice if that was true.

 

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Exactly. We never did.
We just forgot the truth or it was pounded out of us by religions.

Does this sound like the bible was written to show our imperfection?

http://www.mrrena.com/misc/judaism2.php

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DL

 

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How else would one know if God is worthy of his name or not?

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DL

 

So simplify with your answers.

Is it sane to have your son needlessly murdered to fill your own ransom request?

Has Christianity denigrated and subjugated women?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8EYIIR3g&feature=related

What are your simple and truthful answers?

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DL

 

We never knew The Truth. We never can. We can only approach it.

If you have a point, make it. I'm not going to read every site on the Internet to try to figure out what you mean.

 

It is a short read but I understand if you do not have the attention span.

The bottom line is that the Jews wrote God up as a success i8n Rden and Christianity turned that success for both man and God to a failure for all the characters of Eden as well as us.

Just for the money.

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DL

 

God was a success in Eden because He dealt with the imperfections in his creation. Success is not the absence of failure; it's the ability to make good use of failure.

 

I spoke of both God and man and you speak to half. Thanks.

There is that attention span again. Read the link I gave. You need it.

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DL

 

Mr. Greatest I am, did you mention attention span?
Does the following link remind you of anything?

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?135544-God-may-be-a-liar

 

Not a thing.

Have you already shown all you have and can now only throw stones and run away?

Oh well.

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DL

 

Man was the creation. I covered both.

To recap: God created man with the ability to make bad decisions. That's an inherently imperfect creation. Man made a decision that had both good and bad implications: he became more god-like, i.e. he became capable of discerning the good and bad implications of his decisions - but he also had to worry about the implications of his decisions.

In the story, eating the fruit precipitated a change but it's just a plot device. It's an excuse for God to explain Adam and Eve' imperfect nature to them.

 

If that is the case then you should be able to find the quotes showing just that.

I am waiting.

BTW. Could God not have taught of this imperfect nature without his having to make himself look like a criminal parent by starving A & E to death through neglect by forcibly keeping them from the tree that would have kept them alive?

You do know that we would jail his sorry ass by todays standards. Right?

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DL

 

But you're making accusations about God in real life based on what you read in the myth. You have to stick to one or the other.

Yes.

The scripotures don't say that.

Yes. In the myth, innocence is preferable.

"Better" is too loose a term. In the context of the myth, innocence is preferable, ignorance is bliss. Growing up makes us more capable of dealing with the real world but it doesn't make us "better". It would be foolish to say that adults are "better" than children.

Don't be silly. The myth doesn't have its own built-in Cliff notes to explain all of its literary devices.

It isn't criminal to throw your adult children out of the house.

 

innocence is preferable

Preferable to being like God. Hmm.

Who is better in this clip; those with innocent bliss or the one with knowledge of good and evil?
Look for the 1.50 second mark.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x88zxp_the-time-machine-1960-part-6_news

How do you like ignorant bliss?

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DL

 

Again, "better" is poor terminology. The vast majority of species on earth do live in "ignorant bliss", paying little attention to the misfortunes of their fellows. A biological system probably couldn't work otherwise. If you want to pretend that a pie-in-the-sky ideal system is "better" than reality, go ahead.

By the way, becoming more god-like, by your own logic, implies that they become more caring for thir fellow man.

 

Mr. Greatest I Am, I have "shown" nothing - I have, however, posed questions or asked for clarifications.
I have "thrown" no stones.
Mr. Greatest I Am is the one that has abandoned threads, ignored posts and "run away".
You have no regards for anyone other than Mr. Greatest I Am.
You possess no answers. You do not even seek any answers.
Yet you mock and belittle anyone who seems to have any or seeks them.
You must be a legend in your own little fantasy world.

 

For sure.

You make that sound like a bad idea.

When you can answer who is the superior being in that clip, we can talk more.

You have to decide even if your do not like the terminology.

All you are doing now is hiding behind semantics.

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DL

 

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt

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DL

 

So, now you want to discuss Eleanor Roosevelt?
I guess at least she was an actual living person, as opposed to the mythical person you usually lambaste.