There IS No New World Order

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by Eugene Shubert, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    That's the journal that Harritt's paper was published in. I've already seen that video. Richard Gage hangs his hat on the demo of building 7. Gage likes to point out this building was not hit by a plane. Answer me these questions:

    1. How did the "perps" know ahead of time that that building 7 would be struck with burning debris enough to cause fires?
    2. How did they know ahead of time that the water mains would be severed, rendering the sprinkler system that would have quenched the initial fires inoperative?
    3. How did they know that the NYFD wouldn't attempt to fight the fires?
    4. Why the HELL would they wait 7 FUCKING hours to explode their demolition charges...instead of exploding them when the events were happening, and would have been covered by the dust, and actually killed people...no one died in building 7.

    I don't expect an answer.
     
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  3. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Ok. You say that the Firemen and First Responders that were actually present at the Twin Towers and WTC 7 on 9/11 are not credible witnesses "because they were not qualified to describe what they saw and heard." Are you qualified to say what you see and hear after seeing and hearing something memorable and significant?
     
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  5. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Not necessarily - and neither are YOU nor anyone else.
     
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  7. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    No what he's saying is that all kinds of things explode in a fire...including commercial toilets. Unless these explosions happened immediately before the collapse...then they are irrelevant. Why not answer my questions?
     
  8. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    1. Perhaps the perpetrators expected fires in WTC 7 ahead of time since thermitic devises for the purpose of causing fires in Building 7 could be detonated at any time.
    2. How, why and by who were the water mains severed? That sounds like a well-orchestrated plot to me.
    3. There is ample evidence suggesting that the NYFD knew well in advance that Building 7 would collapse.
    4. Why should the masters of mankind have rational reasons for anything? I suspect that they were waiting for their planned fires to reach maximum effectiveness as a nice cover for their demolition by explosives.
     
  9. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    So Gene...you've been harping on how Harritt's paper was peer reviewed, and now it exposed that that journal it was published in pretty much publishes anything....what do you have to say to that?
     
  10. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    You don't see how all these variables could foul a plan in advance? Do the "perps" employ psychics? You have no good answer so your grasp for straws.

    Didn't you say the fires weren't that intense to cause a collapse? So which was it?
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm. Could tons of debris falling hundreds of feet and then smashing through a building do that? Naah. Water mains are designed to handle that. Must have been a secret plot.

    Indeed. They have decades of experience knowing when to pull a firefighting effort from a building due to a risk of imminent collapse.

    Are we talking alien overlords, or the military/industrial complex, or the Illuminati, or the UN, or something else?
     
  12. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Right. And since many things explode in fires, that's why Fruit-Loop said that Firemen aren't qualified to report about the explosions they've heard.
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You never heard of the publisher of the journal article that you keep posting over and over again? Are you trying to backpedal or are you really ignorant of the sources you yourself post?

    If you really don't know where your posted material comes from, it calls into question the validity of anything you post.
     
  14. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously massive explosions could do it. The question is when the water mains were severed.
     
  15. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    No modern steel-framed building has ever collapsed due to fire. That's exclusively a 9/11 thermitic event.
     
  16. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    You should really stop parroting what you read on Gage's site. Lots of steel framed buildings collapse due to fire.

    Like the roof of this building:

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  17. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    So you're saying that no editor of the journal was fired when the journal published computer generated CRAP but when it came to a political issue that stepped on big toes, then real shit hit the fan?
     
  18. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    I will look forward to reading Gage's reply.
     
  19. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    delete double post
     
  20. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Gage makes his living off of preaching 9/11 conspiracies...what do you think he will say? You said:

    and I showed you an example of one that did. You went full retard...never go full retard.

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  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2116/144/1600/FireSteelBuildingCollapse. View attachment 6834

    "About 50 firefighters tackled the blaze at the ESP plant in the Enigma Business Park, near Malvern, which started on Wednesday morning.

    The roof collapsed inside the building and flames leapt 45ft (14m) into the sky in a strong wind, Hereford and Worcester Fire and Rescue Service said.

    A spokesman for the fire service said the blaze had resulted in a black smoke cloud which could be seen for miles.

    He added: "Intense heat buckled the steel girders holding the roof.""
     
  22. Eugene Shubert Valued Senior Member

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    I prefer to call them the shadow government, which are only slightly exposed in the many documentaries that I've assembled at http://everythingimportant.org. I know of no evidence of a secret organization connected to extraterrestrials or the ancient Illuminati. According to Chomsky, the UN does whatever the US forces upon it. There is no question that the military/industrial complex is a serious and evil threat to democracy but I have no idea of the power that controls it. My best guess is the substance of this movie trailer:

    [video=youtube;Qluy0pPJtrs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qluy0pPJtrs[/video]
     
  23. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Classic re-direct.....could you be me even more stereotypical CT?
     

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