Is it possible for a human to Spontaneously Combust?

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by GaiaGirl95, Jan 5, 2014.

  1. RussellCrawford Banned Banned

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    I am not smarter. I am honest.


    The proof is there for anyone to see.



    I am the only truthful person in this debate.

    You have a choice, you can save innocent born babies or you can let them die and save a fetus instead. Pro lifers choose to let innocent babies die.
     
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  3. RussellCrawford Banned Banned

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    No I am not smarter than all scientists. I do agree with you that they all use trickery and fraud. Thanks for pointing that out. And thanks for saying I am the only one that is truthful and opposing the misinformation and straw men. But you are wrong about mainstream science, mainstream science is not part of the problem. The problem here is with a few discredited misfits.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, my mistake. You are the only honest person amongst all of them. It must be hard being the only person who is honest enough to face facts, when every scientist in the world is lying to people.

    Well, you have a choice too. You can stop posting, or you can continue to use the world's resources and let innocent born babies die. Let's see what you choose.
     
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  7. RussellCrawford Banned Banned

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    I am not the only honest person and with regard to trickery and fraud, I was speaking primarily of you, not all scientists. You, being dishonest, have taken my comments out of context. You know the group I am speaking of, so don't continue your little game. Perhaps a direct statement will help you. I am not the only smart person and I am not the only honest person. I am also not the tallest, the most healthy, the best looking or any other thing you choose to throw into the mix.


    Well, you have a choice too. You can stop posting, or you can continue to use the world's resources and let innocent born babies die. Let's see what you choose. [/QUOTE]

    That is just another false analogy bound together with another ad hominem. It is a waste of time.
     
  8. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Recap:


    Hey, what thread am I in? Let me just take Deja Vu off pause. This was going so good.
     
  9. GaiaGirl95 Banned Banned

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    We were talking about a SHC survivor named Frank Baker. Who went on TV to talk of his experience.
     
  10. GaiaGirl95 Banned Banned

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    Anyone comment on this case? Is Frank Baker telling the truth?
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I would not advise a person with severe active flatulence to experiment with matches. Methane is highly combustible.
     
  12. GaiaGirl95 Banned Banned

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    True, but that would result in external burns. Frank Baker is saying a doctor called him and said, ''Frank, this burned from the inside-out.''
     
  13. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    No he's not. Anyone can get on TV and say anything. He's provided NOTHING to back up his idiotic claim.
     
  14. GaiaGirl95 Banned Banned

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    Well, can we rule out the possibility of SHC 100%?
     
  15. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, and you know it, from the many, many other forums on which you've posted this rubbish. Bugger off.
     
  16. GaiaGirl95 Banned Banned

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    Can you list the reasons what made you conclude SHC can be ruled out exactly 100% ? You are declaring that SHC is completely impossible. That's a pretty big claim for something that has puzzled scientists for decades. Are you a scientist?
     
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    Spontaneous Combustion Baby In India? 3-Month-Old Rahul bursts into flames 4 times
    http://www.isciencetimes.com/article...-month-old.htm

    At first, I assumed this was a case of child abuse, but after researching into this case I discovered it also happened in the presence of doctors in the O.R, while the parents were waiting anxiously outside (the parents were away from the baby in one of the instances). Doctors have made a diagnosis of Spontaneous Human Combustion.

    What do you think? This is 2 cases of SHC that was diagnosed by a doctor in alleged SHC survivors. Frank Baker had self-ignited ans a doctor said he'd burnt from the inside out, and the doctors in India are also saying this.
     
  18. rpenner Fully Wired Valued Senior Member

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    Again the newspaper report is credulous trash -- the cause of the baby's burns was phosphorus in building materials -- in this case [post=3152450]cow dung[/post].
     
  19. GaiaGirl95 Banned Banned

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    Do you have any evidence of that? Why did this only affect the baby, and not materials in the house, or the other people?
     
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    ''Frank Baker faced death while earning two Purple Hearts in Vietnam, but the scariest moment of his life came in June 1995.

    Baker was in his home in Vermont, when he suddenly burst into flames, an experience he discusses for the first time on "The Unexplained Files," airing Oct. 2 on the Science Channel.

    "We were getting ready for fishing and sitting on the couch," Baker said on the episode. "Everything was great. [Friend] Pete [Willey] was sitting next to me [and] we were having a helluva time."

    That is, until things started heating up -- literally -- when flames appeared on Baker's body.

    "It was the damndest thing I've ever seen," Willey remembered. "Frank was freaking out and making me freak out."

    Baker started panicking and tried everything to stop his body from being burned.

    "I had no idea what was taking place on my body -- none," he said.

    Baker and Willey somehow put out the flames and got to a doctor. But the diagnosis was as shocking as the sudden flames that engulfed his body.

    "The doctor called, and said, 'Frank, this burned from the inside out,'" Baker said.''






    According to one source: ''The doctors concluded he burned from the inside out and was a victim of partial spontaneous combustion''.
     
  21. rpenner Fully Wired Valued Senior Member

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    The only source for any of that is Frank Baker. Spontaneous Human Combustion sounds a lot better as a tale for retelling than Careless Self-Immolation.
    Likewise, baby Rahul is not subject to Spontaneous Human Combustion, but Stupid Village Arsonists and Child Abusers.

    Abuse of white phosphorous completely explains the burns. The only questions are who and why.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...e-docs-hint-at-child-abuse/article5010621.ece
    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...-all-not-well-with-parents/article5010622.ece
    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/burning-baby-case-rahul-homebound/article5053204.ece
    http://articles.timesofindia.indiat.../41580002_1_rahul-child-abuse-chennai-doctors
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Probably not.

    It is VERY common for patients to completely misunderstand what their doctor said. A doctor who said, for example, "full thickness burns" could easily be misunderstood to be claiming "he burned on the inside too" - and after he realized he needed a little boost to get his news story on TV, it becomes "he burned from the inside out."
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    oh, that is precious. We can make a claim that there is "spontaneous combustion of hemmorhoids" . Damn, they can burn! (so I hear

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