Demonizing people

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Sorcerer, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus H Christ... that is insanity right there. Those two "parents" need to be fast tracked to the electric chair so they NEVER have the chance to hurt their surviving kids, or anyone else, again.
     
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  3. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    (Q),

    Prove it.


    ???


    What is my religion?



    I'm not homophobic, and my opinions do not express homophobia.
    I think you're required to label me as such because my opinions do not agree with yours, and others regarding this subject matter.

    jan.
     
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  5. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Bells,

    Thanks for the tip Bell's.
    Absolute knowledge eh? Impressive.

    Thanks.

    jan.
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Kittamaru,

    I'm saying that marriage is between man and woman, male and female.

    jan.
     
  8. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    A claim you FAIL to back, time and time again.

    jan.
     
  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Where have I stated this?

    jan.
     
  10. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Because she murdered her son.

    jan.
     
  11. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    @ Jan,

    What is your spiritual practice? Do you attend church? If so, what denomination? What is your education background? What part of the US did you grow up in?
     
  12. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I would prefer to keep that information to myself, if that's alright with you.

    Thanks
    jan.
     
  13. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    I understand more than you know. That is why I asked. Great way to not get pinned down in any argument or to remain seemingly above it all. Just jabbing but landing no real punches, so to speak. Do you really even believe what you say (slippery speak) or do you just like to argue.
     
  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    This is a very informative post SG.
    If you are quoting a source, or have got much of the information from it, could you please add a link.
    If it is your own, I'm impressed.
    A powerful argument against anyone who believes that the traditional Christian view of marriage, springing from Biblical sources,
    only accepts heterosexual and loving relationships.
    Many of these examples of marriage are a record of institutionalised repression and abuse,
    many of which now which would be seen as rape,
    with women being seen as sexually defined property rather than individuals.


    @anyone
    (casually throwing a spanner into the machinery)
    What part do you feel that promiscuous sexuality plays in the average homosexual lifestyle?
    Is such promiscuous sexuality harmful?
    That's quite a provocative subject isn't it?
     
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  15. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    YOUR opinions? That's a good one, Jan. My sides are splitting.

    You're just going around in circles now, Jan. You really need to give your head a shake and try to understand that what other people do with their lives is not something you deny them if you yourself wish to have the same level of respect for living your life. If you don't wish for any respect, that's fine, but don't demand it from others and don't expect any in return.

    Do you understand this at all, Jan?
     
  16. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I'm quite sure you think your religious beliefs are perfectly normal and moral by your own standards.
     
  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Don't play dumb, Jan.
     
  18. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    You are required to answer.

    Where have I stated this?

    jan.
     
  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No it isn't the sole basis of anything. People regularly condemn behavior and so condemn the person performing the behavior. Behavior is simply an expression of who one is. It is inseparable from their identity. If I morally condemn a person's behavior, I am axiomatically making a moral judgement about that person doing and thinking certain things. There is no condemnation of a behavior in a vacuum, as if behavior could exist without the person performing it. If I morally condemn the addictive behavior of an addict, I am also condemning the addict as well. If I morally condemn a person's sexual behavior, I am also condemning that person as well. There is simply no moral condemnation of behavior without condemning the person as the agent of that behavior. Moral or immoral behavior assumes the moral culpability of the person themselves.
     
  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    No I don't. Can you explain it?

    jan.
     
  21. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    What religious beliefs?

    jan.
     
  22. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    NOTE FROM A MODERATOR

    [Q]: haven't you spent enough time in Coventry lately? I realize that this mishmash barely qualifies as a "discussion," but you're just making it worse. If someone asks you a question, please answer it instead of writing something cute and snarky that stops the exchange dead in its tracks. That is, after all, a textbook example of trolling, which is against the rules.

    If the other person is also breaking the rules, we'll figure out what to do with him/her too. That's not your job!
     
  23. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    That is untrue. Same-sex marriage is now legal in England, France and other countries in Western Europe. Now admit that you lied.

    Here is a link which will show where same-sex marriage is legal around the world:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory
     

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