Is God a just judge?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Greatest I am, Jun 20, 2014.

  1. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Ant farm. Obviously.
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Because it is a secular concept and cannot be taught as a "special virtue" which brings favor in the eyes of (your) God.
     
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  5. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    That is why a god cannot live by "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"??? Huh?
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Pretty much, if you know your religious history. Gods have been at war with each other or against humans since the beginning of abstract thought.

    Do not do unto other gods as you would do unto Me. I am the True God and thou shalt not have false gods before thee.

    Religions are Exclusive Truths, which cannot be questioned on pain of ostracism or worse. Each religion forbids the practice of another religion. Being religious in one's eye, makes you a sinner in another's eye. "One man's religion is another
    man's witchcraft."

    The credo of the Inquisition:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

    and today in some theocracies;
    http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html

    I am supposed to acquire wisdom from such trash? Theism in general and Religion in particular are all founded on an untestable premise and will not allow the peaceful expansion of "spiritual growth".
    It is not only "Supernatural", it is "Unnatural". i.e. against the Laws of Nature and the only "knowledgeable judge" available will be a scientist.........such irony... the gods must be smiling..

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  8. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad. Perhaps that is why they gave humans the quran & other HolyBabbles.
     
  9. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    That would not be god like, he is here to satisfy, he is love.
     
  10. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Which god are you talking about?
     
  11. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    No argument except for grammar. If permissible then we would not call it murder.

    What you describe "BY ANY MEANS", we now do not allow. We have become slightly more civilized over time.

    Regards
    DL
     
  12. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    "Potential"

    We are close. In such situations I use the word ideal.
    Ideals in law and rules to live life with.

    Those who anthropomorphise a God should be looking at his rules and laws and those who do not hold a belief in a God should just seek ideals to follow.

    You say you tried naming yourself, I am, and you were not satisfied. Why not?

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    DL
     
  13. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    But what's the point? What does ridicule accomplish?

    To express frustration?
     
  14. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Do you love your children and would you step up to die for them if you decided that a sacrifice from your family was required?

    If you are a decent human being you will say yes.

    So why did your God show less love for his son than you do for your child?

    And why would you follow what is less moral than yourself?

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    DL
     
  15. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    That's how they release their pent-up, negative emotions/energy.
    They're really childish at heart.

    jan.
     
  16. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Hell no. We live in a world that I call evolving perfection. Why would I shun such a life?

    You are thinking of some cults that used to think that all the material world was corrupt. That is not a Gnostic Christian belief today. It cannot be if we have a spark of God within our matter. We have to love ourselves.

    Let me remind you of whose God cursed the whole world after A & E ate of the tree of knowledge.

    The Christian version of God. Right?

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  17. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    + 1

    Romans 12:21
    Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

    Strange how God would think that hell for most of us is good.

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    DL
     
  18. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I'm a lover bad things don't happen to me I will never have to sacrifice myself for my family. I don't believe in a world where we have to kill one to save another, so she that faith lives death, and danger go to the bottom of the pit.
     
  19. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    No. To try to get the theist to recognize that like the non-believer, he should be laughing at his belief and not just accepting it as is.

    If literalists, for instance, cannot recognize that they should be ridiculed for believing in talking snakes and donkeys, then they cannot recognize much of anything and show that they have not set aside the ways of children as scriptures urge them to do.

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  20. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Read my last please.

    Care to argue as to who is being childish?

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    DL
     
  21. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Perfect.

    Thanks for this deflection.

    People will see you run from obviously showing that your God is less moral than yourself. Although deflecting and not calling evil evil shows you have poor morals yourself.

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    DL
     
  22. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    What's wrong with hell for a soul whose consciousness is on that wave length?

    jan.
     
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    Hey! That's good.

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    Yea, that "tradition" thingy... Always a bugger.

    Yea, it is kinda ... exotic, but I like to learn about it, nevertheless.

    Yes, it is.

    Well, we obey, and worship not because they need, but mostly because we "put ourselves on our places" or, "humble ourselves" before something that is mightier than what we would ever be.
    And tithe is another thing. Like in Christianism it is used because I don't freaking remember, but has something to do with the church and shit.
    Other religions mostly it was all about giving them offerings and libations and whatevers, for 1) them to keep on favouring us, 2) reminding them we are still loyal because they get pissed sometimes, 3) show them our favour towards them (when there was a pantheon of gods specially) and 4) to humble ourselves again. Kinda like.

    I have no idea, but if we go through it, you bet they will blame on God ...

    [jokes]I thought Darwin invented that.[jokes]

    I said, I like to learn about stuff...

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    We are the greatest Ant Farm ever, specially when this Christian deity is taken into consideration.

    I could not watch it yet but I will certainly.
     

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