Possibility of star formation around black holes

You've been told that too.

So what is your point?

 

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That it doesn't solve the problem , of BH causing galactic jets ..

These jets are a contradiction to the Nature of BH , simply put

And always will be

 

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Only with regards to silly unsupported, unreviewed alternative nonsense.
Mainstream cosmology has a valid theory aligning with current known laws.
Finally, as always, what you think makes no difference to the educated interpretations, based on real data and real evidence.

 

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In what way. The material forming the jets comes from the accretion disk, outside the event horizon. How many times can you ignore being told?

 

No , the material , the energy , comes from the galactic core

Your mistaking two stars , one drawing , energy , from the other . This has nothing to do with galactic jets

Anybody reading this thread would know this

 

No, the material in polar jets comes from accretion disks, but most SMBH's are at the center of galaxies.

Wrong. It has everything to do with galactic jets.
Matter is drawn from one to the other to form an accretion disk, and then it spirals into the BB, perhaps being twisted and thrown upwards and outwards, depending on that BH's properties.

Sorry, I'm not totally familiar with too many forms of conspiracies, alternative rubbish, and pseudoscience.
That's your department.

 

Disagree with all this

Show that the galactic core , has these jets connected with it , from the accretion discs

You won't and can't

 

You can't argue with a crank. river just posts nonsense, without ever checking on anything. He'll believe any bit of woo, has no knowledge whatsoever of science, but can't be shown anything mainstream.

 

From my post #507 , show me the evidence , that the jets come from , and/or are augmented by the accretion disc , to the galactic jets

 

Did you look at the photos in post 455 and 457?

Or this one, from the source YOU linked to previously?

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What about these pictures , they don't show that the accretion disc has anything to do with the jets

 

Either you're really stupid, or your being a petulant child, jumping up and down shouting 'it is not, it is not'

There's the jets from that galactic center and a close up picture of the accretion disk around the galactic center. What would you accept as evidence? A youtube video?

 

So what , there is accretion disc around the galactic center . I don't see any evidence that this disc tributes to the jets themselves

 

Nasa says the source of the jets is the accretion disk.
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/scitech/display.cfm?ST_ID=265



This conversation has inevitably passed into the realm of empty idiocy, as indeed does every conversation with you.

 

Holy shit I just realized you are right! I was going to reply to an alternate "picture" of yours,but I just got a warning on another topic about this very subject.

It is possible black holes exist and dont exist at the same time!

 

Nasa is not the absolute authority on this , at all

Your appealing to authority , doesn't work with me

Nasa is wrong , no different from what has been put forward already

There is no evidence , from photos that this is true

The observations of jets , from the galactic core , show no evidence , that these jets have anything to do with their accretion disc

 

Read this

http://hubblesite.org/hubble_discoveries/science_year_in_review/pdf/2006/galactic_jets.pdf

and this, a spectral analysis of accretion disk and jets

https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~atilak/dissertation-ad.pdf

You will, of course, ignore it, claiming it shows nothing. I'm not sure what you would accept as evidence, but then, given that it's you, I really don't care.

I've finished with you.

 

They are just saying the same thing as before

There is nothing new here , and alot is just speculation

The point is and I have said this many times , if the black-hole draws everything into it , how are the energy of jets even possible ?

Since light can not escape a black-hole , why would energy at any level be able to escape the BH pull towards it ?

It shouldn't be possible

 

Ditto, ditto, and ditto again.

Everything that he has asked, has been asked and answered before.
Sad, really sad.

 

See?
Firstly he is of the opinion that a BH draws everything in.
If that were the case, we wouldn't be here.
Secondly he appears ignorant of the photon sphere, and the fact that not all light is drawn into the BH....
Thirdly he doesn't seem to be aware that the only place where all light is stopped/reversed, is inside the EH....
But again, all this has been told to him before. :shrug:


His only Interest is pushing Electric/Plasma hypothesis, that was debunked as nonsense years and years ago.