Marijuana has NO medical purposes and should be classified like heroin

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by cosmictraveler, Jul 11, 2011.

  1. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    regarding the bold segment, how has marijuana shown or done this ?
    it hasn't, why ?
    the foolish thing you are doing is not acknowledging that most of what HAS BEEN occurring with marijuana will not change if made fully legal. this is the part you can not grasp. you act as if it will change, in a dramatic way, just by saying it's ok to use. it's ridiculous, and it's why i believe you are not seriously interested in the actual conversation, but interested in finding something to bash marijuana with, but you are failing and know it.
    also you are attempting to to compare marijuana with heroin and meth and cocaine. this is also a ridiculous stance. get a clue, will you

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  3. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    WTF, something is wrong with this bold crap, it will not let me fix it.

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    never mind, fixed it
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Just as when they legalized alcohol, they didn't see the ramifications either until it was way to late and now its out of control with over half of traffic accidents and other major problems that wreck families and create many other things that happen when people get drunk. Just because you can't see the future when many start smoking pot legally and what can and will happen by its use there's nothing I can say that will change your mind just as whatever you say won't change mine.

    Anything that gets you stoned by abusing it does and will cause many problems and if you can't understand that then that's your problem not mine. Again I say to decriminalize it only.
     
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  7. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    yes, i had enough of this ridiculous nonsense. do you even listen to yourself. again, learn something of the reality. it's that simple.
    again,you are failing and know it. get a clue, will you
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for all the information you have contributed about the pros legalizing pot. People will smoke it no matter what I say and that's fine with me unless of course the get stoned and drive their car into mine.
     
  9. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    i believe you are not seriously interested in the actual conversation, but interested in finding something to bash marijuana with
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It's worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. I assume you would pay more for a good bottle of wine from a reputable store than a poor bottle of questionable origin.
    Yes, and alcohol is a much bigger threat than pot is in those respects.
    If something is _potentially_ dangerous then yes, in many cases, it should be legal. Its misuse should be legal.
    Murder should be illegal because it is a crime that deprives victims of their lives. Shall we therefore outlaw all killing, including during wartime, during home invasions and during police actions?

    Rape should be illegal because it is a violent and disgusting crime. Shall we therefore outlaw sex?

    I am all for making it illegal to drive stoned or drunk. That does not equate to "therefore ban alcohol."
     
  11. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i can't sit here and portray MJ as some kind of evil substance, nor can i fully endorse it.
    run of the mill street pot does little harm to the person.
    the bad part is that people aren't stupid and pot is easy to cultivate.
    outright legalization will almost instantly result in a flood of super grass.
    supergrass, they don't call it cripple weed for nothing.
     
  12. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I wasn't bashing pot I was only making comments that I feel are necessary to understand what pot can and will do to people who misuse it just as people do now with alcohol.
     
  13. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    It should be noted that except for a brief period in time during prohibition, alcohol has always been legal.
     
  14. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Someone saw the dangers that alcohol brought with its public dispersal and knew it wasn't a good thing for society because many people that drink won't drink without getting a buzz to make them feel good. Again I must emphasize that I'm talking about those people who can't drink responsibly.
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Until recently so was pot, opium, and cocaine.
     
  16. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    A vocal group of women took advantage of the men being away during wwI. to use their newly granted ability to vote to impose their moral values on the rest of the country. Look how well that turned out.
     
  17. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    It isn't.

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    You don't need drugs Cosmic.
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    When was that chart made?
     
  19. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know.
    It was on google.
     
  20. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps women were at the forefront of the prohibition but there were men standing beside them. It wasn't morals they were trying to protect but a way to keep families together, people from becoming alcoholics and vehicle accidents as well. I'd agree with them that alcohol was a very dangerous drug and millions have been killed, injured or have medical problems due to using it the wrong way.

    No one knew what would be the result of people not drinking responsibly or the devastation it would take out on families. If you think that it is worth all of the pain and suffering that alcohol has made then I don't think you grasp the situation that alcohol can bring when using it in the wrong way.
     
  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Just curious because the article I posted on the OP might have been made before your chart was made or the OP was wrong and if so I'd like to know, thanks.
     
  22. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Marijuana has never been in the same class as Heroin.
    For it to be in a higher class than Ecstasy and LSD is odd enough.

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    Sorry, you are correct. That is the chart for Canada.
    Time for me to eat

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    USA is as follows:

    Schedule I

    Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:

    heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote

    Schedule II

    Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, less abuse potential than Schedule I drugs, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence. These drugs are also considered dangerous. Some examples of Schedule II drugs are:

    cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, hydromorphone (Dilaudid), meperidine (Demerol), oxycodone (OxyContin), fentanyl, Dexedrine, Adderall, and Ritalin

    Schedule III

    Schedule III drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Schedule III drugs abuse potential is less than Schedule I and Schedule II drugs but more than Schedule IV. Some examples of Schedule III drugs are:

    Combination products with less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin), Products containing less than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine), ketamine, anabolic steroids, testosterone.

    See http://www.dea.gov/druginfo/ds.shtml
    Incredible.
     
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  23. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Al Capone, Lucky Luciano, Bugsy Siegel, the Gambino family, the Bush family...
     

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