Anthem Ins. hacked.!!!

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  1. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    The bad news:::

    http://www.anthemfacts.com/

    "The information accessed during the "very sophisticated attack" did include names, birthdays, social security numbers, street addresses, email addresses and employment information, including income data"

    Any need for concern.???

    The good news... the above info. seems to be all they got... an anyhow... Anthem said "We will provide credit monitoring and identity protection services free of charge so that those who have been affected can have peace of mind."

    Whats that slogan... "You'r in good hands wit Anthem."???
     
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    I don't think credit monitoring services would give a lot of peace of mind. It seems much effort still would need to be expended to undo damage if someone did a theft using the information.
     
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  5. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I have confidence that Anthem woud take care of any such damage even if its long term

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    ... an besides... realistically... what damage coud be done wit only my name... address... birth date an Social Security number

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    ... i mean... its not as if the hackers know my mothers middle name or my favorite color... that information Anthem kept secure

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    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-anthem-hacked-20150204-story.html

    "At this point, it appears that the data stolen do not include medical information or credit card numbers, according to the company."

    Thank God for that... id hate for bad guys to know that i get flu shots.!!!
    It also apears that the hackers got customers account numbers... an that the information that was hacked wasnt encrypted [Oops].!!!

    I guess its just to expensive for websites to keep the information encrypted.!!!
     
  8. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    clueluss... you realize the scope of this attack? Encryption really wouldn't have helped. The attackers would still have the data, and as a result would have all the time in the world to decrypt it (pretty easy given the power of todays systems)

    Trust me... in this game, you can NEVER be truly secure... all you can do is be more secure than the value of the data warrants stealing...
     
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    Which speeks to Anthems value of the stolen data.!!!
     
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  11. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I dont know... but if this keeps up... one of these years the US might make it more difficult to hack our stuff.!!!
     
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    And how, exactly, do you recommend the US does this? After all, we are talking about private corporations here... or would you prefer the government take over everything and mandate how its done?
     
  13. milkweed Valued Senior Member

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    This is an issue that needs to be addressed. Example, I went to the drs. office just yesterday and while updating my records, they had my address as a po box for my ex-husband. I NEVER used his po box and this change in address occurred after 2006 (over 5 years after divorce). My ex husband did not change my address in the system. The system changed my address well after the divorce (also long before updated in their system).

    A few years back I got a letter from a bank that I had not been a customer at in over 15 years saying there was a possible theft of my data. A laptop had been stolen from a car in florida. This is an independent bank located in MN with no branches. There was NO reason for my data to be in a car in florida. Now they had no idea if my data was on this laptop but the issue is they had reason to believe my data was still on their system.

    Recently I went to Walmart to have my oil changed. It had been a few years so the kid wanted my phone number. I said no. He tried the "we cant do it without your number". I called him out and had him search by name and he found me. I made him read the phone number listed. 555-1212. I said, see, you dont need my number. Then he wanted the vin # of my vehicle.. I said no. Its a blah blah blah. Oh we need it for our guys to do the right change. I said, no you dont. He said thats ok we will just read it when it comes in. I said No forget it I will go somewhere else. Why does walmart want this info? Data mining to profile customers. Whats the risk? Your vin number on another computer system. But dont worry, your credit card number isnt stored there. meh, I would be better off with a stolen credit card vs ssi, vin, etc.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/vin-cloning-thieves-masking-car-thefts/story?id=28401709

    There is going to have to be a law so people can opt out. Its my data and I should be able to decide who gets to store it, analyze it, make money from it. It has value. And I want my cut. Better me than the thieves

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    Woudnt everbody.???
     
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    As it always has... when you log-in to Anthem a pop-up wit a BIG LOCK says:::

    "You are now entering a secure site"

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  17. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    It is a secure site... at least, in so much as a website can be.

    clueluss, if you think it is so simple/easy to make a publicly accessible website with an attached database that is able to be searched by medical providers, billing, and various other individuals on short order and yet is secured against all outside intrusion... then why don't you go ahead and do so yourself?

    If successful, you would make a metric fuck-tonne of money.
     
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    O... i didnt know that... thanks

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    Grate news.!!!

    http://www.indystar.com/story/money...ed-customers-free-credit-monitoring/23243617/

    "Beginning Friday, millions of customers potentially affected by the cyber attack on health insurer Anthem can sign up for free credit monitoring and identity theft protection services.

    In a statement Wednesday, Anthem officials said they have been working with a vendor to provide the services for two years at no cost to customers whose names, addresses, email and Social Security numbers were exposed in the breach made public last week."

    How about that... when my Homedepot account was hacked they only gave us 1 year of free credit monitorin... same as when my Target acount was hacked... but Anthem is givin 2 years of free credit monitorin... PLUS... 2 free years of identify theft protection.!!!

    I thank a good advertisin campain for the online businesses woud be:::

    Hay... do bidness wit us... our security is equal to industry standards... so... when you'r info. gets hacked we will give you 3 years of credit an identify theft protection... eh... cause we care about you.!!!

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  20. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    You realize that, technically speaking, they aren't required to do anything about this, right? Anthem aren't the criminals in this, the hackers are... and given that it's been all but confirmed that this was a state-sponsored hack from China... there isn't a single company in the US I can think of that has an online presence that WOULD be immune to this kind of attack...

    The simple fact is, Anthem is making the attempt to make this right - and this is a good way to go about it.
     
  21. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Good pont Kitt... thanks

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  22. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Huh... sinse Anthem was hacked... my credit score went up 2 ponts to 800

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  23. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2880...-should-do-after-the-massive-data-breach.html

    Anthem won’t be the last

    ""You don't have to be an Anthem customer to take lessons from this incident. Your own insurer could be the next victim. “A sad fact is that the healthcare industry by and large has never been seen as a leading edge security consumer because the historical threat has been more focused on financial services,” said Mark Kraynak, Chief Product Officer for Imperva. “This is a broad generalization but healthcare targets are probably a little bit softer targets than financial targets.”"

    "Jeremiah Grossman, CEO of WhiteHat Security, cautions that there’s a good chance other health insurance organizations are already compromised and just don’t know it yet."


    Well im kinda proud to be among the trailblazers who will help to make the fraud-protection process easier for those who come later.!!!

    An in this case... if you intend to also sign up a spouse for the free fraud protection Anthem is makin avalable... they will need ther own code (requested by... an received by email)... so make sure you have both codes before you go to the fraud protection website... then thangs will go smooth... the website is very user frindly.!!!
     

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