How come there's no clear high quality image or video of a UFO infront of the camera

Which is the complete opposite of what you're doing.

 

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So what is your name? Please tell me it isn't the urban-dictionary meaning of the word...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=garbonzo

garbonzo
to insert the penis into the partner's nose
i garbonzo'd her

Really? Please, show me where you've made a convincing, fact-based counter-argument to a piece of evidence that has weakened your claims that the supernatural is real.

Like I said, every human on this Earth has the right to stand up for themselves and request honest interactions with their peers.[/QUOTE]

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It could be. :> What's your problem with it?

Then again, it's called Urban Dictionary for a reason.

No one can claim the supernatural is real. The label is so broad it wouldn't make sense. Supernatural things are simply unexplained things. That is my claim. The same as Paddoboy. Stop changing the subject though. What you refuse to argue is that supernatural = unexplained. Because you know I'm right.

I would have killed myself on that point, so it's a good thing I dodged it!

 

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Just because something is unexplained doesn't mean it's supernatural.

You know why?

Because the supernatural ISN'T REAL.

 

Is the unexplained real?

 

Sure. It's just unexplained.

 

There you go again, with that dishonesty factor.
Telling lies makes little baby Jesus cry!
The argument isn't the fact that the Supernatural is simply unreal and therefor unexplained.....it is you insinuating that the unexplained is supernatural.
You cannot see the point can you?

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I don't really have a problem with it... and actually, it would explain quite a bit about your behavior (I mean, if you don't even know something like where to stick it, which is a pretty instinctual thing... well, that speaks volumes)

Argue that supernatural doesn't equal unexplained? That's easy:

From our good friends at Merriam Webster:

supernatural
adjective
: unable to be explained by science or the laws of nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god, etc.
1: of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially : of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil
2a : departing from what is usual or normal especially so as to appear to transcend the laws of nature
b : attributed to an invisible agent (as a ghost or spirit)


unexplained (hold on tight, as this is a bit of a wild ride, being a compound word!)
un-
prefix
1: not : in-, non- —in adjectives formed from adjectives <unambitious> <unskilled> or participles <undressed>, in nouns formed from nouns <unavailability>, and rarely in verbs formed from verbs <unbe> —sometimes in words that have a meaning that merely negates that of the base word and are thereby distinguished from words that prefix in- or a variant of it (as im-) to the same base word and have a meaning positively opposite to that of the base word <unartistic> <unmoral>
2: opposite of : contrary to —in adjectives formed from adjectives <unconstitutional> <ungraceful> <unmannered> or participles <unbelieving> and in nouns formed from nouns <unrest>

Origin of UN-
Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German un- un-, Latin in-, Greek a-, an-, Old English ne not — more at no
2un-
prefix
Definition of UN-

1: do the opposite of : reverse (a specified action) : de- 1a, dis- 1a —in verbs formed from verbs <unbend> <undress> <unfold>
2a : deprive of : remove (a specified thing) from : remove —in verbs formed from nouns <unfrock> <unsex>
b : release from : free from —in verbs formed from nouns <unhand>
c : remove from : extract from : bring out of —in verbs formed from nouns <unbosom>
d : cause to cease to be —in verbs formed from nouns <unman>
3: completely <unloose>

explain
verb
: to make (something) clear or easy to understand
: to tell, show, or be the reason for or cause of something

1a : to make known <explain the secret of your success>
b : to make plain or understandable <footnotes that explain the terms>
2: to give the reason for or cause of <unable to explain his strange conduct>
3: to show the logical development or relationships of <explained the new theory>

-ed
verb suffix or adjective suffix
1: used to form the past participle of regular weak verbs <ended> <faded> <tried> <patted>
2: used to form adjectives of identical meaning from Latin-derived adjectives ending in -ate <crenulated>
3 a : having : characterized by <cultured> <two-legged>
b : having the characteristics of <bigoted>

Thus, unexplained is, by definition, something that has not yet been explained (opposite of explain, in past tense) - it does not "seem to come from magic, a god", nor is it "relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe"

Thus, by the simplest explanation of the very definitions of the word, Supernatural is not equal to Unexplained

 

In my experience, super natural is very often a projection effect from the unconscious mind. A projection is like a movie being shined onto reality, from the mind's eye of the imagination, so there appears to be a superimposed image.

It works on the same principle as social anxiety disorder. In social anxiety disorder, where a fear tone that is projected onto the environment, that is not there for all to see. This sense of anxiety of the environment is part of certain people. It originates in their mind due to chemical reasons, yet impacts them as those this is real to the environment. If we collected a dozen such people with social anxiety disorder, all might feel the same sense of something out there that is scary, But we can't photograph this, because it is a projection of the mind.

Ancient mythology was a collective projection. It was felt as real by all; divine anxiety, and some may even saw them, via a more graphic type of projection. As an example of a graphic projection, say I drive you to the woods at night and leave you there. If one was not an outdoors person, used to camping at night, the shadow in the bushes, may become a wolf, looking at you. This is trigger due a projection of fear, with the fuzzy shadow stimulating a secondary visual projection of the wolf onto the shadow. If you get the camera to film the wolf, the shadow may sort of look like a wolf, but not a clear cut photo.

I present this not so much as to discourage UFO's, but to show you the real last frontier is not in space or finding aliens, but in finding the source of the inner projector. It appears to anticipate the future. The UFO and aliens symbolize the future of technology and maybe the wisdom to use it.

 

So this is your argument?

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Ah, you are the type that only likes missionary, I see. Tell your partner she / he is missing out.

Would you agree that paranormal is synonymous with supernatural?

 

You know my argument. It is the logical argument held by all sensible people here except for yourself.
What you claim as Supernatural is probably explained by other natural means, and if it cannot be explained at that time, it is simply unexplained.
Being unexplained does not mean its supernatural.

 

Yeah... there's nothing even remotely enticing about the idea of sticking it in the nose... none whatsoever. To be frank, that sounds painful, unpleasant, and honestly a bit insulting to her (not to mention that the nose/sinus cavity isn't designed to have such an organ thrust into it, doesn't have any erogenous zones, and that I can only imagine the risk of damaging the mucous membranes, as well as introducing possible infection. Dunno about you, but I believe women deserve respect.

Anything supernatural would be, by its very existence, unexplained (first and foremost for the practical reason that nothing supernatural has ever been proven to actually exist, and thus could not be studied) - the unexplained is not, by definition, supernatural. Again, see the nationally accepted definitions provided by our good friends at Merriam-Webster.

 

No.
I see the paranormal as being an action or event that is beyond normal scientific understanding.
I see supernatural as being attributed to a force beyond the known laws of nature.

Telekinesis is paranormal, but attributing it to a demon inside your body would be to push it into the supernatural.
Calling forth powers of the underworld would be supernatural, as would magic etc.
The Bermuda Triangle mythos is about the paranormal, as long as there is no claimed supernatural agency involved.
UFOs that defy scientific understanding would be paranormal.
Bigfoot is an animal that has so far defied scientific confirmation, and would thus be paranormal rather than supernatural. But it doesn't do anything that in and of itself defies natural laws.
But Werewolves would be supernatural: a being that turns from man to wolf at the full moon etc certainly goes beyond the known laws of nature.

Etc.
So no, I see the two as somewhat different in meaning, although something could be both paranormal and supernatural.

 

How do you feel about gay sex?

It does sound that way. Doesn't mean I should stop others if they want to do it.

Why "her"? So sexist. It could be a guy too. Another sexist thing is assuming women can't have kinks / fetishes. Why do you assume it is the guy that wants it rather than the woman?

They say that about a lot of things. You sound like my conservative grandpa.

Neither does a lot of places on the body people have kinks / fetishes for.

Sure, there's risks in everything you do in life. Doesn't mean we should prevent others from doing anything even if we think it is stupid.

Me too, you are the sexist one here.

You didn't answer the question.

Back on topic:

UFO EXPERIENCE OVER BEACH IN SA ​

Story sent in by Kathy Dickmann, South Australia​

On the 25th June 2006 on a whim, my son and I decided to visit our beach house.

Accompanying us was our 17 year old dog. I might add at this point that in all his 17 years, our dog has never liked the sea and ran away when nearing a rock pool on the beach. When we arrived at the beach house we went straight out the front and stood looking over the marina to the beach houses on the other side of the inlet.

As we stood, nothing was said, we just looked over the sea. I was picking up a very unusual phenomenon. Everything looked distorted, small and interestingly, we could not hear the seagulls or the noise of the sea. Everything was silent. It was as if viewing the whole surroundings through cellophane paper or, even more bizarre, from another place. My son then mentioned that everything seemed strange and distorted, exactly the same sensations I was experiencing.

We then decide to visit the main beach which is situated a one minute walk from the back gate, to see if the same phenomenon was apparent on the main beach.

It was.

The sea seemed as if it was boiling and had a phosphorescent color to it and again we could not hear the waves crashing on the breakwater rocks or indeed the seagulls. Everything was almost silent. All of the time I was taking pictures with my camera and getting nothing. The air seemed electrified.

By this time it was dark and the time would have been about 7 p m.

Still taking pictures, my son called to me to look at the dog, which by now was about 10 ft into the water and walking in a straight line out to sea. My son had to go in and pick him up. The dog seemed as if he was on remote control. He was also very cold. This was indeed very odd behavior. We decided to take our dog back to the house and dry him off. All of the time we were walking back I was taking shots and again getting nothing.

Half way back I noticed a reddish haze nearby in the sky, so I took a photo. I knew I had something this time because the window in the back of the camera lit up. When back at the beach house I reviewed the shots taken and was astonished to see the object which appeared on the camera.

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We immediately went back to the main beach to see if there was anything else apparent.

There was nothing unusual, but what was interesting , was the fact that everything was cleared and back to normal. We could hear the sea and the birds once more. It was as if viewing the object was the catalyst for normality to return.

I did not see the object at any time but what ever it was, made itself apparent before I took the photograph.

Camera used....Nikon Coolpix...5900.

 

My personal feeling? I can't ever see myself doing that. However, the rectum is a significantly larger opening than the nose... not to mention the inherent dangers of sticking a foreign object into the nasal passages an introducing foreign debris into the sinus cavity (perhaps I just feel this way because of my allergies/asthma, but none the less)

I would feel nearly obligated to make sure they are aware of the dangers therein.

Her or him... why in the world would a person want a penis in their nose?

This is true - a lot of things weren't designed for it... but the nose in particular isn't sized for it... unless, of course, we are talking about a particularly tiny penis? I don't know about you, but comparing the size of my penis, even when not having an erection, to the size of my nostril (or that of my wife), I cannot see any POSSIBLE way of insertion that wouldn't cause tearing... and unlike a vagina, the nostril isn't designed with the ability to stretch its opening several centimeters...

Actually, most do.
To use some of the more common kinks (do recall, to be a fetish is has to be a requirement for the person to achieve sexual release/orgasm), the feet, ears, neck, shoulders, thighs, and butt all contain nerve endings that can stimulate a pleasure response.
To provide a personal example - the area around the sides of my biceps can become incredibly sensitive and my wife has found that a gentle touch (such as trailing of the fingertips) can send a nearly electric jolt of pleasure through my body.
Now, granted - the nose contains these same sensory nerve endings (though in lesser numbers) - however, I would imagine (going back again to my comment about the size of the organ vs the size of the nostril) that the pain of having the tissue torn apart by the offending organ would override any sensation of pleasure (unless the person in question is masochistic, in which case we're talking an entirely different kink)

That... could be argued either way.

My apologies - due to my own personal sexual orientation, I "default" in conversation to male/female copulation. I have nothing against male/male or female/female pairing - it just isn't what I do so, as I said, I fall into the pattern of talking about that which I can personally relate.

Which one? The one that's been answered repeatedly?

Indeed, that is UFO - unidentified flying object. That does not make it paranormal - just unknown.

 

Doesn't matter if the penis is small.

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Do you do that for everyone that is about to do something inherently dangerous, like wingsuit flying?

There are a lot of things people do that I don't understand. I don't make a fuss about it. People are free to do whatever they want.

I assume it would have to be a tiny penis.

How so? Are you for limiting people's freedom?

I accept the olive branch.

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Wait, that's not an olive branch....

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Do you consider paranormal a synonym for supernatural?

It is indeed paranormal.

 

Of course it isn't. There are a few quarters on the floor of my car. I don't know where they came from - but that doesn't mean they are paranormal.

 

Small... doesn't quite describe it. It'd have to be nearly insignificant...

I should hope that SOMEONE does... else we might have someone go and throw themselves out of an airplane without a fully-functioning (and correctly assembled/maintained) wingsuit.

Indeed they are... much as I'm free to mention how odd that particular one seemed. Only one that's making a fuss about my doing that is you

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See above

Aren't we already? Some things (such as drugs) are illegal. Some things (such as alcohol, firearms, tobacco) are prohibited until a certain age...

But it is the truth

per our friends at Merriam Webster:
paranormal

adjective para·nor·mal \ˌpa-rə-ˈnȯr-məl, ˈpa-rə-ˌ\
: very strange and not able to be explained by what scientists know about nature and the world

Synonyms
metaphysical, otherworldly, supernatural, preternatural,transcendent, transcendental, unearthly

supernatural
adjective su·per·nat·u·ral \ˌsü-pər-ˈna-chə-rəl, -ˈnach-rəl\
: unable to be explained by science or the laws of nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god, etc.
Synonyms
metaphysical, otherworldly, paranormal, preternatural, transcendent,transcendental, unearthly

I dare say it doesn't matter what I consider in this instance - the two are, in fact, synonyms.

Prove it - prove to me that unidentified object is "unable to be explained by what scientists know about nature and the world" or "of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic or a God"

Given that it's an "unidentified" object, that you are unable to study it, and that you are unable to even examine it up close... I am curious to know how you intend to prove anything about it beyond what we could observe - that it was flying, and that we don't know what it is.

 

Quarters on a floor is beyond scientific understanding? What were they doing on the floor? Jumping up and down?

It's illegal because people think it hurts others. We usually don't protect adults from themselves.

So? ...

Prove that ghosts are. Or do you not consider ghosts paranormal? What you want to do is invalidate the word "paranormal", because nothing will fit in the category. I agree. These things are simply unknown, paranormal is a bogus label that shouldn't exist. So we agree. GG.

What makes something paranormal then? If UFOs aren't, nothing is.

As an aside:

Can you name something that is unexplained yet explained? Paranormal means "not scientifically explainable", shortened to "not explainable", clarified to, "not currently explainable". Which is the same as unexplained. Tell me where I am going wrong in this logic. Quote the exact part and attack the argument.

 

cloaking device?

seriously
if UFOs are spaceships
or trans-dimensional ships
then they ain't paranormal.

just beyond our current knowledge base.