Are all dissenting voices cranky ?

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  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I told you the same thing, along with others early in the piece, although not as professionally.
     
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  3. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Rpenner,

    You have a company...Paddoboy's..
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    But you have been pretending and trying to defend your own position, while constantly moving the goal posts when ever cornered.
    People do read you know. The evidence of all you have insinuated, inferred, and claimed is in black and white, and most of it, as rpenner has said is fucking ridiculous!
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Well at least we can't claim never to be wrong again, can we?

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  8. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Nothing is fucking ridiculous, Paddoboy. Not even your claim over Lee Smolin.
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Side stepping the issue at hand again?

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    And I claimed nothing about Lee Smolin other than I certainly have heard of him.
     
  10. The God Valued Senior Member

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    But I am never wrong..
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You see my friend,your biggest mistakes in all your threads appear to be "dissent for dissent's sake: And that is totally illogical and always wrong.
     
  12. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Read the OP again..
     
  13. The God Valued Senior Member

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    No, not at all. You know nothing beyond popo and you defend that and still want equality with Rpenner
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Are all dissenting voices cranky ?
    In free thoughts and proving that your posts reflect the notions and ideas of a crank.

    Not really, rpenner obviously is streets ahead of me, and me streets ahead of you,

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    Do better.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Nice to see someone else recognise his "God of the gaps"argument.
    Nice post btw, in its entirety.
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    What I posted in post 52:
    Compare it to what rpenner said recently.....
    Of course I do not expect an apology, that needs the making of a man:
    The solar system orbits around the SMBH and the galactic center, although there are other motions superimposed on the generality of the orbit due to the non symmetric distribution of the mass between our solar system and the galactic center. We consequently have small movements towards the center and away from the center, and also motions above and below the spiral arm in which we are at this stage.
    The Sun does not orbit directly any other stars and is a single stellar system, amid a huge variety of stellar systems within the galaxy...binary, trinary and even greater systems.
    The galaxy members are kept as a galactic structure due to the effects of each stars gravity on other stars and so on, with of course the controlling feature of the SMBH near the center: Also throughout the MW galaxy system is conglomerations and streams of DM as well as in the form of a halo structure around the galaxy proper.
    Our own galaxy the Milky Way is gravitationally bound to many other galaxies in what we call the local group, which is then part of an even larger conglomerate galactic structure called the Virgo Supercluster.

    Sorry at this stage no links to support the above recognised premise, but if you doubt any of it, or feel like putting in any magical deity Spaghetti monster then let us know and I'm sure I will be able to cooperate
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    The God:

    In response to your opening post:

    It's not so much that particular positions are inherently cranky. One might well propose that the Earth is flat - it's not an inherently ridiculous idea. And one might well question whether black holes exist.

    This issue is where and how the argument goes after that initial questioning. Is it reasonable dissent, or just bland denial of the available evidence? Does the dissenter really understand the topic under discussion, and all the arguments for and against his position? Is the purported evidence for one view or the other really all it's cracked up to be?

    Ideally, science puts ideas to the test. You have a hypothesis that the earth is flat? Great. Let's work out a way (or a number of ways) to test that and see whether it's true or not. If the tests support the hypothesis, good. Otherwise, back to the drawing board.
     
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  18. The God Valued Senior Member

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    James R

    I have no such hypo or position that Earth is flat, may be you took that as an example....
     
  19. The God Valued Senior Member

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    So, we move on to second point. That is spacetime. The spacetime is not a physical thing, it is not spatial space alone, but it bends curves and ripples are also produced in the curvature of spacetime which are claimed to be detected.

    Once we talk of detection af something associated with spacetime, then we must assign certain physical properties to it otherwise it is nothing but a cpnvenient maths tool. A mathematician will be happy looking at those equations and how they are unfolding but the bending is limited only on paper.

    I want to understand how a mathematical tool can create some disturbance in gyro (GP-B), I want to understand how a mathematical tool can create path difference in aLiGO experiment, I want to understand how it bends, curves in reality to create such effects.

    The discussion must proceed only after concluding that spacetime is physical or not...


    PS: Paddoboy, Request pl do not copy paste, just give links and your views on the contents of link.
     
  20. The God Valued Senior Member

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    To be precise can someone here explain how a mathematical entity curves or bends or ripples to create physical effects.
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No conclusions will ever be reached by those participating on a science forum.
    That conclusion has already been decided by men of knowledge and credentials: What trolls on a science forum wish to conclude is their business and plays no part in science, the scientific method, or what is logically accepted.

    That's not for you to decide, and whether you are again playing games or otherwise, simply reflects on your own problems and agenda.

    Already been done at post 140. Are you trolling again?
     
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    That's a surprise!
    And again, how can you justifiy the fact that you can sit there and claim that BH's make no sense, that spacetime cannot be real, that it is silly to imagine we can curve it, etc, and then profess belief and love to some magical all powerful infinite Spaghetti monster?
    How do you explain that contradictory?
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    To the god:

    You are always very silent on the tough, revealing questions: We all know why, don't we?
     
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