Ghost photobombs

And if you look at the area above the black man and slightly to the left you can see a monkey with a set of headphones on

I'm converted

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No it isn't. Anything that has physical effects has the same standards of evidence as any other physical process. The extraordinary proof maxim is just moving the goalposts to avoid having to accept evidence.

 

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It's a pity all cameras are not fitted with strong vaccum cleaners

They might be able to suck up these wispy ghost a la Ghostbusters

After checking the photos and finding a ghost in the frame they can check the Dustbuster for further evidence

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And yet, you can look at a photograph and conclude the non-physical, beyond-the-grave, after-death nature of something. Look at you go!

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I can conclude ghost because we have lots of other accounts of these entities being seen directly, of them making noises in empty houses, of them speaking on recorders, and of them moving objects. Study the paranormal sometime. You might learn something.

 

May I ask have you personally ever seen a ghost?
Have you received an account of a ghost from someone you know personally who you regard as honest and reliable.
Alex

 

No..but I have heard many accounts from people I trust and respect. War veterans often return with many strange tales for example. Nurses sometimes experience spooky things too. I DID receive a phone call from my just passed away mother. That was pretty amazing..

 

Oh dear that is soooo easy

Control yourself

Yes Humpty

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"Another witness who reported strange, ghostly figures in the desert claimed that his unit was plagued by a mysterious phantom that would appear around the outskirts of their camp and vanish in the blink of an eye. The first time it appeared was a little after dusk, a couple hundred yards from their position. One of the men, described as a “random PVT,” told the others that there was a person out in the wilderness just standing there. The witness looked and at first couldn’t see anything but after a moment could make out a dark blob in the vague shape of a person. The Sergeant apparently was called over and saw it too. When asked where the figure had come from, the private explained that it had “just popped up.” Whoever was out there there was just standing motionless with its back to them. The witness described the eerie scene and what happened next:

'So we watch this “person” for about 3hrs, who just stands there, motionless, with its back to us. You could put optics on it and see it was a person, adult male, average height and build. Best part: we “borrowed” a thermal monocular and this fucker doesn’t register in it. ZERO FUCKING HEAT SIGNATURE. Then randomly, just poof, gone. Random PVT spends the next 6 weeks telling everyone about the ghost we saw.'----http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/02/bizarre-paranormal-encounters-in-the-war-in-afghanistan/

 

3 hours?????

No one took a pot shot at the sand 10 metres behind this figure in the interest of security?

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This is what is called a foregone conclusion.

Noises in empty houses, and voices on recordings and blurry photos are all unrelated until and unless one can establish a theory and mechanism that explains these things as part of the same phenomenon.

And no one has a theory or mechanism of ghosts. Sorry, but they just don't.

Sure, there's lots of things that might be explained - if anyone were to ever develop a model - but no one ever has been able to. It makes no testable predictions.

Anyway, you know all this. Nothing will convince you in the face of wishful thinking. But that's OK. I post for other readers here, so they know sanity still reigns.

 

There are lots of theories about what ghosts are just as there are lots of theories about what dark energy is. Oh look! Here's one now!

https://maskofreason.wordpress.com/the-book-of-mysteries/theories/quantum-theory-of-ghosts/

 

There of lots of speculations. Maybe even hypotheses, if one were to be generous. No theories.

Interested readers might want to read up a little on what constitutes a scientific theory (as might the author MR linked to). (Oh, and no, cherry-picking a broad, layperson's definition out of his favorite online dictionary does not count.)

 

"A theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking. Depending on the context, the results might, for example, include generalized explanations of how nature works. The word has its roots in ancient Greek, but in modern use it has taken on several different related meanings.

Theories guide the enterprise of finding facts rather than of reaching goals, and are neutral concerning alternatives among values. A theory can be a body of knowledge, which may or may not be associated with particular explanatory models. To theorize is to develop this body of knowledge."---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

 

Theories must make testable predictions. And a valid theory must do as good as or better at explaining a phenomenon than competing theories (such as pareidolia, which the OP has been tested for - and predictably shown to fit - some of the evidence.)

 

Ghost theories always make testable predictions--about energies indicating ghosts, locations likely to be haunted, times for detecting paranormal phenomena, geological effects on paranormal phenomena, methods of provoking ghost responses, and likely types of hauntings.

http://www.assap.ac.uk/newsite/htmlfiles/Paranormal theories.html

 

Which is why I said testable predictions. As in: ones that can be falsified.
"Theories" that cannot be falsified are not theories.

 

Paranormal theories are always being tested and disproven by investigators. Many if not most cases end up being debunked by mundane explanations---racoons in the attic, rattling water pipes, exposed wiring, even carbon monoxide poisoning. A testable prediction btw is not necessarily one that is proven wrong, "Testing" and "prove wrong" do not mean the same thing.

 

We're talking about a mechanism of what ghosts are, how they operate physically, the concept of spirits from beyond the grave has no operating mechanism, there's no idea why they might show up on film but not the eye, etc.

Without a mechanism by which it might work, it is entirely speculative.

Pareidolia, fakery and over-zealous authors and other explanations are known, documented, testable, predictive phenomena. i.e. actually are capable of explaining the phenomena without coming up with new, untested physics.

They may not be satisfactory, but at least they are consistent with physics.

 

Paranormal phenomena are known documented phenomena as well, capable of being detected by EMF meters, thermal cameras, laser grids, digital recorders, vibration detectors, and human senses. It doesn't have to have a preexistent explanation by science to be real anymore than dark energy does. It is real because it has physical effects that can be measured and predicted, regardless of whatever may be causing it. That's how most science happens. First we discover the phenomenon, then later we develop the theory to explain it. Multiple theories coexist and compete for awhile and eventually one ends up being the best model.