The Only Universal Religious Position

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Ted Grant II, May 18, 2017.

  1. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously, you do not understand belief. People do not choose what to believe.

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  3. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I get your point (somewhat) but of course people choose what to believe or to not believe. Two kids go to church for years and one believes and one does not. A choice was made.
     
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  5. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously, you do not get the point.

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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Your point (correct me if I'm wrong) is that one doesn't chose to believe in God. One either believes or doesn't believe. It's not something that one consciously choose.

    That's ridiculous of course since you would have never "chosen" something you weren't already exposed to. If you were a primitive man where nothing was understood then you might make up gods for every unknown (weather god, god of the sea, fertility god, etc).

    In today's world you "believe" in God because you've been exposed to God culturally.
     
  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I choose not to believe that

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  9. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Years ago, (I forget which thread or what the subject was) I said "No matter what anyone says, there will be someone who disagrees".
    Someone replied "I don't think so".

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  10. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Never happened

    You made that up

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  11. Seaman Registered Member

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    This illustrates a general problem with powerful institutions that fear groups that hold different values. All such institutions are primarily interested in protecting their powerful positions and are not interested in the welfare of individuals. This applies to religious organisations (e.g. Jehovah Witnesses accused of poor child protection policies) and non-religious ones (e.g. the Soviet Union campaign against Jewish poets, writers, painters and sculptors).
     
  12. KUMAR5 Valued Senior Member

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    To get logical awnser to above, first we may need to undersrand real and universal definition of true religion. We can not base specific definition as per specific culture for it. I tried to define it in my other topic. Faith is not limited to any specific religion or a specific being. Keeping faith in your parents, teacher, friends etc is also a faith. A skeptic can keep faith in science, a believer in god etc. Imp point is keeping faith and following good, healthful and harmonizing practices.
     
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  13. Seaman Registered Member

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    I assume you mean that aliens are unlikely to exist. It's true we haven't discovered any yet, but the number of discovered potential life-supporting planets is increasing at an exponential rate. The universe is probably teaming with life and therefore teaming with believers of various kinds, all of which must be different from any on earth, but all having some sense of the Truth.
     
  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    For some reason I can't read the original post probably because on my Iggy list

    But that's OK

    No I certainly do believe that the Universe teams with life. And I'm guessing many will have some sort of belief in some sort of god

    For atheist like myself it won't make a scrap of difference how many gods are on my Iggy "Don't bother this god" list

    And this mystical Truth of which you post. Which Truth would that be?

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