does religion really matter in the 21th century?

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  1. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Theists have an agenda to do good to fellow man
    Atheists don't have any agenda , but they expect society to be good to them!
     
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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Any research to reference?

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  5. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Even if there would be data you would come up with similar statement by asking statistics, you are just a negative staTEMENT.
     
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  7. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.
     
  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Don't worry, I still love you even when you're wrong.
     
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  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    It just gets harder and harder the wronger you get

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  10. jayleew Who Cares Valued Senior Member

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    What do you mean by this?
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Theists have adopted a theist agenda, atheists are free to adopt a humanist agenda. The only difference is humanists don't tend to adopt religious bigotry.
     
  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That's a lie.
     
  13. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    The human Yanomamo in the Guayana have not evolved yet , because they have not been exposed to the bible.
     
  14. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    What "Bible"?
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That is not correct, although I'm not sure why you bring them up. Here is the Bible translated into their language:
    https://listen.talkingbibles.org/en/language/guu

    They have their own culture, which is different from yours.
     
  16. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    That is great , I knew about that culture over 30 years ago at that time they did not have a bible , and the were a warrior culture. I am sure they are more mild as they were before.
     
  17. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So why do you say they aren't evolved? We both wage wars. The Jews were a warrior culture too.
     
  18. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The only religions I know of, whose members do not wage war, are Baha'i and Rastafarianism.

    Both are very new: Baha'i arose in the 19th century, and Rasta in the 20th. Let's wait another 100 years to see how this plays out.

    Yes, I ignored Scientology. It was created by merging a set of science fiction novels with a self-help plan: "Dianetics." I'm astounded that, somehow, it was accepted, legally, as a religion. It gets away without paying taxes, and that is all that its creator, L. Ron Hubbard, wanted.
     
  19. river

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    Religion could matter , in the 21st century , if and only if , this religion was based on Humanity .
     
  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. For those who it matters to (the same as it always has been),
    Will religion always remain the way it is now?
    Nope.

    jan.
     
  21. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    matter to whom?
    And if you do not mean 'matter' in the sense of 'being held important' how do you mean it?
     
  22. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Jolly good. Another topic that turns out to be exhumed from either a decade-plus burial or commencement date. Just to address the subject line itself (since you're long gone...)

    It acquires renewed vigor during these bounce-backs to nationalism and traditionalism. Support from the Orthodox Church is a key part of what ensures Putin's continued maintenance of his power, along with the return and recruitment of many other Russian customs and aspects of cultural identity that were inhibited during the Soviet era. Secular regimes that aren't necessary illiberal like his will still often have to offer back-door respect to tribal beliefs via superficial gestures to the applicable population groups / divisions.

    Even political systems going the whole hog of actually featuring militant anti-religion or atheism at their cores will yet substitute personality cults, synthetic adoration of the state, and reverence of ideological abstractions (like North Korea's Juche.) A nod to the influence and allegiance-generating organizational powers of deeper primeval tendencies -- or the prior in rank hypernyms, which a more specific concept like "religion" is simply subsumed under rather than reigning atop of. Barring transhumanism engineering the whole gamut or hierarchy of such out of us in the deep future, this is always going to be vaguely akin to a surprisingly myopic community of farmers believing that by driving out the familiar insects preying on their crops, they have thus eliminated the pests.

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