gender views cause of incel.

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  1. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Here's the thing. Women know guys want sex. So if she has no desire to have sex with him, then she should not visit his house.
    It's a bit like excusing little red hood's naivete about the big bad wolf.
    Now, if a guy secretly slips a date rape pill in a woman's drink, that's not her fault really. But if she consciously knowingly goes in the house of her date, but has no desire to have sex with him and he rapes her, that's a bit like little red hood going into the big bad wolf, it feels like lemmings or dodos, but reversed, because instead of being excluded from the gene pool they are getting raped and making babies as dumb as themselves.
     
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  3. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    I never said such a thing, and you disappoint me because I thought you were above the fake news.
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    What is the alternative. How did the guy who is dating them, interest them? As you get older, even just old enough to be out of school, the available pool is more limited and harder to find. That's life.

    It applies to everyone but most people do find someone if they really want to and some people do want to be single and some people don't want to be single but because of their personality will probably stay single.

    That isn't just people who aren't datable, it's people who think they want a relationship but when they are in a relationship just can't compromise enough to make it work. It doesn't even have to be anyone's fault, it's just them being themselves.

    I have a female friend who is a doctor, has money, has many interests, is a very nice person...she is just hard to live with, she is a perfectionist, knows that she is hard to live with, can't really change her personality, and is fairly OK with that situation. Just be yourself and deal with the consequences. What else can you do?
     
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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    No, he didn't. He is bisexual, transgender, or whatever but he desires a woman, at least he thinks he does.
     
  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think you are evolved enough to even go on a date.
     
  9. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Problably because he touted the american dogma, was racially pure, had money, was always positive, etc.
    I am not racially pure, I am not religious, I dont have much money, I dont repeat american dogma and am a naysayer of hypocrits.

    Yes but my point is the availiable pool women get to choose from is bigger.
     
  10. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    I think I am more evolved than you so what does that say about you?

    But I get it. To be evolved is to hand hold the stupid and excuse any kind of dodo-ish moronic behavoir, especially if said behavoir is from a female because to be evolved is to be a white knight protector of dodo females.
    For instance if a retarded feminist stands up for Muslim sharia law, even if Sharia law oppresses gays and women, we have to hand hold her and make up some excuse for her stupidity.
    For example feminists will say 1 in 4 women get raped at college.
    Then at college they will go into some guys house alone who they have no desire to have sex with.
     
  11. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    It says nothing about me. If you think going into a woman's house means that you can rape her or that she deserves to be raped, it says a lot about you.
     
  12. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    I never said anything of the sort and if thats what you believe then mentally speaking you seem to be evolutionarily low on the totem pole so to speak.

    If that is what you honestly believe then I recommend to take logic classes and learn basic reasoning abilities.
     
  13. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Women and men are roughly equal in numbers so it's not bigger.

    Are all boyfriends "racially pure"? Are all women "racially pure". Most people don't care about religion unless you happen to live in such a part of the country that cares about that.

    Yes, you have to be nice to be around. Why would anyone chose to be around someone who isn't nice to be around? I wouldn't. Would you?
     
  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    We've already established that you aren't the best with reasoning or you wouldn't have these views and this attitude and this lack of success in relationships.
     
  15. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Men often choose women who are not nice to be around, because they have less options.

    I listed traits which reduce your chances of success, having one trait alone may not be as noticeable but it does make a difference.
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    It's always a choice as you never have to be in a relationship with someone. If they aren't nice to be around, don't be around them. You are using sex as an excuse.
     
  17. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think so. I think my higher logic and reasoning keeps me from connecting with the average person and as such I often get into arguments with them about their hypocrasy and illogic.

    To make it clear lesson 1 is my thing was not advocating rape I was just saying that if a sheep goes into a den of lions well then the sheep gets eaten. I never placed any kind of moral stance on the issue. For example if a lemming walks off a cliff and dies then that is unfortunate for the lemming. I never said that men ought to be lions. Basically I was saying that its a choice to be responsible for your own safety, you can be a careless and naive and trusting fool or you can choose the road of distrust.
     
  18. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Easy to say if you didnt spend every day being alone for years. Sometimes something of low quality is better than nothing at all.
     
  19. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    The women who meet you are choosing the road of distrust.

    You aren't intellectually above the average person responding to you here so get over it.
     
  20. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Giving up isn't the same as having to be alone. If you are alone you can always get out of the house and go somewhere where there are people (and I would suggest that).

    Exercise helps as well. Go to a gym or a pool or do something that you enjoy doing so that you have a good time even if you aren't in a relationship. It is possible to try too hard and it's also very possible to be too needy and to turn everyone off.

    If you turn yourself into a door mat you aren't helping yourself. Get a pet.
     
  21. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    gamelord:

    How can you molest somebody with your eyes?

    Do you even know what "molest" means?

    So, on the one hand you're complaining that women won't give you sex, but on the other hand you're complaining that women are "molesting" you against your will. So which is it: do you want women to hit on you, or not?

    It's amazing how you can discern all this from a woman's glance at you. You don't think that, just maybe, you're overthinking it?

    If it walks like a duck...

    Why would anybody be sexually attracted to you if you come across as sad, angry and impolite?

    As Tiassa said, it's one thing to adopt a label, but when that label comes with a whole load of baggage you can't really pretend that you're not buying into all that as well. Especially when you parrot all the talking points.

    Not from where I'm standing.

    You only mentioned women there.

    If you go though life believing you are a victim, that might become all that is possible for you.

    No. Rape is sex without consent. Disgust is not required.

    It's amazing that the human race hasn't died out, then. I wonder why.

    Disgust doesn't come into it. The only relevant question we need to ask is: did he consent? If he didn't, it's rape, disgust or no disgust.

    Err... what?

    A man forces a women to have sex against her will, and this is evidence that women are disgusted by men?

    What's wrong with you?

    Nonsense.

    It's hard to know where to start with you.

    Perhaps we should talk briefly about biology, for starters. Maybe we'll get to patriarchy later.

    Women are ones who bear children and historically they have been the ones who have primarily raised them. (This is still true to a large extent.) The biological reality is that a woman who becomes pregnant is burdened with the nine months of pregnancy and the implications that go along with bringing a child into the world who needs care. Men, on the other hand, can spread their seed far and wide. They do not bear the burden of pregnancy and historically they haven't borne most of the burden of child rearing.

    The evolutionary result of this (and it is not restricted to human beings) is that males have a natural tendency to sow their wild oats, whereas women tend to be picky with their men. Broadly speaking (and remember, this is purely an evolutionary perspective) women want security and resources from men, while men want sex. The "cost" of bad sex for a man has historically been minimal; there is plenty of other sex to be had. But for women, the cost is potentially much more significant: bad sex can lead to a nine month pregnancy and having to bring up an unwanted child.

    What this means is that you ought not to be surprised if women take other things into account apart from the momentary physical pleasure (assuming that is a possibility) in deciding whether or not to have sex with you. It should also not surprise you that many men are interested in only one thing, a lot of the time.

    Take away message from this little lesson: it is not that women are not sexually attracted to men. It's that they tend to look beyond that.

    These are all broad generalisations, of course, and lots of individuals vary from the mean. In the modern age of contraception, women have far more freedom to sexually act out as men always have. But the evolutionary hard-wiring is still in most of us, not too far below the surface.

    One thing that continually strikes me about the "incels" (the young male ones, anyway) is just how naive most of them are about basic human nature. A lot of them are clueless, just like you. They aren't getting sex, and they can't imagine why. So they come up with silly reasons about why all women must hate men. And you're buying that line.

    I don't think anything you could say would be over my head.

    As Bells said, we've seen plenty others just like you here. You might think you're an original thinker, but to us you're an example of a type we've seen before.

    I've read what you've had to say. A lot of it is hopelessly muddled and deluded. I really hope you manage to work it out and snap out of this state you're in before you get much older. But I don't think I'm the person with the patience or the time to provide you with all the education you'll need to realise what's wrong with "incel".

    You don't make things easier by thinking you're superior to other people, by the way. You might want to work on that as well. Get some perspective. There are heaps of people who are smarter than you are. (I could say the same about me.) There are clearly plenty of people who have the whole life thing better under control that you do. (I could say the same about me.) You're deluding yourself if you put yourself on a pedestal.
     
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  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    LoL
    i must have read someones assertion amongst your responses.
    though... it is possible to check back amongst the posts though it would take some time.

    i do not seek your approval your dissapointment is purely your ego feeling immature.
     
  23. Bells Staff Member

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    You are a misogynist who blames women because you cannot have sex.

    We have seen dozens like you come through this website, spouting the same bullshit over the years. You are not original. You are simply predictable. You follow the same pattern, the same form of behaviour.

    You defended yourself by acting like a rape advocate and rape defender.

    I do not need to ask for evidence. Your posts speak for themselves. Your words speak for themselves.

    Or hasn't that sunk in yet?

    Oh, you have had women shut down your ranting misogyny before? I am not surprised in the least.

    As I noted, your posts speak for themselves.

    Oh look, you are changing the subject and context when your open misogyny and rape advocacy is called out. How totally unexpected.

    Your questions have already been answered. Repeating them in a whiny tone makes you seem even more pathetic.

    There is a vast difference between want and need.

    No one needs sex. You want sex. You think you are owed sex. You believe that you deserve sex.

    You don't.

    Actually the reason you do not get sex is because of you.

    Your personality, your misogyny, your vitriol.. That is why you do not "get sex". The fact you act as though you "need sex" is why you do not get sex.

    You believe and have argued that women only enjoy sex if they are drunk.. Something something about being too inebriated to consent applies here..

    You don't believe women get to choose. You have argued against that through this thread. You believe that women owe you and men in general sex. You even diminished rape as being simply about disgust instead of the violation it actually is.

    I think the only reason you have not progressed to rape is because you are too afraid of the consequences, which we can be thankful for small mercy's I suppose...

    Men like you exist everywhere. Men like you are the ones who ply women with drugs and alcohol because they believe they "need sex".

    I don't hate you. I just don't really think much of you at all. You are simply yet another dude who thinks women owes them what they want.

    As for your repeated whole Jewish and Nazi tropes, what is that meant to achieve, exactly? It just makes you look more desperate.

    Considering you have been whining for what? 8 or 9 pages about how women are narcissists because you can't get laid, you think you are the victim?

    Poor you. Poor poor you. Do you want some warm milk and a cookie to make you feel better?
    What world do you live in that you think this is reality?

    Or do you believe women expecting men to not be misogynistic arseholes is simply asking too much of you?

    You keep blaming everyone but yourself. It's pathetic.

    You can wear whatever the hell you want.

    And no, women are not repulsed by men. Women are repulsed by men who act or are creeps, who act like they "need sex". Women are repulsed by men who fail to take responsibility for their behaviour and actions and instead blame everything on women.

    Yep. Blame everyone and everything for your bad behaviour.

    Your coming off as a creep is because of how you behave and the words you spout.

    Okay...?

    I take it you don't get out much, do you?
     
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