Creationist questions evolution

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Jan Ardena, Nov 10, 2018.

  1. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Speak for yourself.
     
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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    What do you mean?
    Alex
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, I am absolutely convinced that the concept of evolutionary processes has been established beyond any reasonable doubt.
    Any other possible explanation demands much greater complexity than natural universal mathematical processes and are superfluous to the fundamental question of a mathematically emergent and self-expressive universe.
     
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  7. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Whatever floats your boat.
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Why are you here?
     
  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Neither do you.
    You simply memorise information, then regurgitate it, in an effort to maintain the idea as real.

    Here is another side to your current delusion.
    Unless anyone agrees with this religion, despite having academic credentials, or not. Do not know anything about Darwin’s ideas.

    Quite pathetic really.

    Jan.
     
  10. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    To reply to a post, I'm still waiting for the follow up. Few pages back.
     
  11. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Great words, but you'll have your work cut out. They won't stop no matter how senseless it gets.
     
  12. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    No one can deny science.
    One kind of creature changinging into a completely different kind of creature, is not scientifically verified. Slight modification over time, for the purposes of adaptation is.
    Show me any theist that denies the latter?

    Unless they admit that no creature has, over time, transformed itself into an entirely different type of creature (eg: whale evolution), there is no update.
    It is therefore a belief

    What’s it got to do with you, how I spend my time?

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    Anyways let’s get back to discussing religion. Namely yours.

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  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, you are looking at this from the wrong perspective. No one claims that one kind of creature changed into a different kind of creature. The claim is that ALL creatures came from a single biological precursor, and that time and evolution has produced an astounding variety of kinds among species and even some hybrids from once separated kinds.

    But changing from a hominid precursor into several different families of great apes is not changing kind. It's just changing functional cosmetics, i.e. evolution and natural selection for viability under dynamic local conditions.
     
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    https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03

    Read the evolutionary process at left of the tree

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    Skeletons of two early whales.

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    Here, a phylogenetic tree shows how hippos, and cetaceans such as whales and dolphins evolved from a common ancestor

    https://www.livescience.com/49922-images-hippo-ancestor.html
     
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  15. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Here is the realist perspective on evolution.
     
  17. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Who you talking to? You are looking in the wrong place for evidence.

    Also, who were you posting to in the post before this?
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    What are you trying to prove? Triceratops did not exist? The fossil skeleton is fake?

    After 50 million years you expect to find mass graves of dinosaurs?
    As long as you provide proof of the existence of these creatures you are proving science correct.
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Slight modification over a span of 100 years results in major modification over 10 million years. Exactly the same process, exactly the same result. The only difference is the scale. We have proof of this process, and its result.
    We have fossil and genetic evidence that shows that whales evolved from land animals. Further, we have endless examples of organisms that are in the process of evolving from land animals to aquatic animals.
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, you don't have any. I do and I am posting it. Any objection?
    Don't worry.
    You're not important enough for me to be concerned whether you read this or not. You have nothing of interest to offer.

    I have tried to engage you in a civil manner and you refused to even employ normal everyday courtesy, so please stay out of my posts, ok? And another one bites the dust......

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  21. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    You won't get away that easily. Your cut and paste pictures prove nothing and it is bad form to assume I didn't know anything about evolution, in truth I've probably read more books on it then you.
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    He is rejecting the notion that we belong to the family Hominidae.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae

    In his world there are only monkeys and humans.
     
  23. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Who's posts are you referring to?
     

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