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  1. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    You would have an iron enclosed chemistry set.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed!

    One can say iron is overkill. Many of us who grew up in the 70s had the elements enclosed in nothing but a cardboard box!

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  5. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I don think more detail is necessary...
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    So according to you, gold should be more reactive than iron. And helium should be more reactive than, say, potassium.

    I see.
     
  8. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I'm saying with respect to iron hydrogen is more reactive than gold. Using iron as a standard for reactivity.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    omg
    im in love !
     
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  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    you have not said how many microns thick the iron is supposed to be.
     
  11. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    It wouldn't be measured in microns... More like inches. I wouldn't want to be mixing chemicals in a Trojan condom and have the iron impregnated.
     
  12. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Are you saying gold is more or less reactive than iron?
     
  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i just learnt i am wasting my time interacting with you.
     
  14. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I'm saying a scale with iron as a standard might be more accurate to measure reactivity with respect to the original experiment.
     
  15. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    H+He+Li+Be+B+C+N+O+F+Ne+Na+Be+Al+Si+P+S+Cl+Ar+K+Ca+Sc+Ti+V+ Cr+Mn+ 26 Fe=?
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I confess, I'm fascinated with this thread.

    I'm not not contributing; I'm simply waiting for a moment, even the smallest of windows, where it intersects - however fleetingly - with reality.
     
  17. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    If you have enough H and O, you'll get a dust cloud of Li, Be, B, C, Ne, Na, Al, Si, P, S, K, Ca, Sc, Ti, V, Cr, Mn, Fe, etc.
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    You don't need any of that.

    Just check out the Urey-Miller experiment and see millions of chemical reactions take place.

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  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the room for interpretation leeway is so large its like a tarot card scam in thread form.
    however...
    maybe shim means all elements being simultaneously bonded with iron...

    that would require a quantum computer and some very expensive programming for something that would have possibly vastly varying results.
    chaos theory would probably need to be used as an algorithm to formulate probable systemic confluence.

    my brain tells me it would end up being 80% computer generated art.
     
  20. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    HF+ BeO+ BN+LiCl+MgS+AlP+SiC+FeNa+FeK+FeCa+FeSc+FeTi+ FeV+FeCr+FeMn+18Fe+He+Ne+Ar
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    If that is chemically "allowed" at all. You cannot just throw a bunch of chemicals together and expect some kind of orderly processto ensue.

    Chemistry follows very specific "rules", especially when there is a multitude of chemicals present.

    That where evolution starts.
     
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    my attention has been mused by the point at which gravity takes over and engages in the reactive process.

    does the gravitational field intrinsically change the nature of the elements to a point where it presents a different physical property of the core attribute ?

    i.e/e.g the surface of the sun
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I would hazard that all significant external influences such as gravity, pressure, temperature,
    affect chemical reactions,

    Interestingly, one can find oil but also vinegar in places where the earth's crust has subducted thousand of feet down into the interior.

    And I just ran across this big little marvel of natural self-organization.
     
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