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Discussion in 'Religion' started by davewhite04, May 5, 2019.

  1. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    If every posted was labelled _______, it would be hard to follow the thread.
     
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  3. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus, Dave, Bob, Bowser...I suppose there is a summary there.
     
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  5. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    True. Who am I? The same as you.
     
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  7. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Tiassa:

    If you think that there are scholars who wouldn't waste there time on me, then I won't waste my time on you.
     
  8. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    What if GOD was actually Brian's Father? Good movie, probably better then the passion of Christ.
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I think raising the dead, walking on water, turning water to wine, turning 3 fish into 300 and proclaiming to be the only begotten son of GOD even though he'd die a terrifying death is pretty unique. Do you think?
     
  10. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    He was a twisted man. Christians at least try.
     
  11. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I think the point was that no, many of them don't.
     
  12. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    The British (Christians) were trying to hold on to their indian empire with force and Gandhi was trying to get them to leave by peaceful demonstration. And you say he was a twisted man??
     
  13. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes many talk the talk but don't walk the walk. It's human nature.
     
  14. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    You might find this video interesting, if you don't fancy watching it all, skip to Number 1.

     
  15. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    It's the only god he knew. As to limited contact, I don't recall there being any. He talked to Jehovah, just as any other Jew might, but if he got an answer, I don't recall anywhere it was recorded. Jehovah talked to Noah, Abraham, Cain, Job, Moses, couple of other OT chosen ones; angels delivered messages to Peter, Mary and Joseph, Daniel, Jacob, Samson... I forget whom-all else. He just wasn't taking any calls from Jesus - maybe didn't want to show too much favouritism, having already gifted him with magical powers; maybe didn't want to discuss the endgame, whatever.

    If Jehovah was a fraud, then the modern Christian god is a fraud, because it's the Christians who raised Jehovah out of his provincial roots to world-dominion, then universe-dominion, and hung all those omnis and responsibilities on the poor guy.
     
  16. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Try what? That's the problem. They far too often succeed, them being so much richer and better-armed than the pagans.
     
  17. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    So, the point about the British being Christian and subjugating the Indian nation was missed by you?
     
  18. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Every monotheistic religion would be a fraud. Not just christianty.

    Yes, who is this Jehovah character? Is he a an old man with enough power to change the direction of humanity by playing civilisation on his computer? Who is the real God? How do gods get their power? Is it based on how many followers it has? The Sumerian gods have a point system, the more points you have the more power you have. Enki and his brother enhil have(or maybe had) 50 points each, while their offspring had up to 20(Marduk being an exception). The Sumerians acknowledged a vastly more powerful God above themselves. The Sumerian civilisation were much more useful then the Jewish people, and a lot older based on evidence. So were their gods more powerful then Jehovah? The possibilities are endless. To get anywhere, religion should be abolished, a fair fight instead of filling peoples head full of dogma.
     
  19. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Christians... yeah, who are christians? I class a christian one who walks the walk so to say. Try to be good people, that's all Jesus really taught.
     
  20. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I answered the only question you asked me.
     
  21. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    If you mean Judaism and Islam, of course. Same roots; same god.
    Main protagonist of this big book. It's a fun read.
    To whom?
    Of course, as long as they were powerful. Once the Romans adopted Jehovah, he became more powerful than the gods of Europe. When France, England, Portugal and Spain grew empires of their own, they were able to extend and expand his power. That's how it works.
    Nothing is ever abolished; it just goes out of style.
    Nothing is ever fair, especially fights.
    That's your prerogative.
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Then you don't need him or the Bible.
     
  23. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. He never taught that you did.
     

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