Are you an introvert or extrovert?

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  1. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    So, I'm feeling blah today. Being ''on'' for an introvert (giving a great presentation yesterday), doesn't come without a cost.

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    I wish it came naturally for me, but the irony is...my boss thinks it does.
     
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  3. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Whether it comes natural or not you have showed him you can do it... prolly be a promotion an raise sooner that you might have expected.!!!
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It's never come naturally for me, but I've gotten better at it over time. I actually find public speaking to be pretty easy now because I don't give long speeches very often. Being "on" all day at trade shows and the like is harder for me.
     
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  7. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Where?? Not next to your desk or chair, because that would make it a cubicle, or at least semi-cubicle.
    Anyway, i was merely suggesting why some people might work better in their own space - which does not consist of a single flat surface covered in monitor, keyboard, folders, pencil cup, hol puncher, the long stapler that always goes missing, in and out boxes and the backside of a colleague who just stopped by to pollinate you - again - cos he's got nothing to do until his department head comes back from Aspen and makes a decision.
    It sounds all lovely saying everybody's quiet, polite, considerate, professional and observant; that they're all comfortable doing their back-stretches in the middle of a crowded room, respect everyone else's space and enjoy unlimited mutual access. It may even be true in your little corner of employee heaven -
    but it' simply not applicable to most humans in most work-places most of the time.
     
  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    So, you resent your job and believe women are inefficient?
     
  9. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    What???
    We were talking about open plan offices with no individual privacy or personal space; whether such an arrangement if conducive to doing one's best work, especially if one is not extroverted. It was a reply to DaveC.
    How do you construe it as a negative comment on my own (perfectly custom-tailored) work, or the efficiency of women?
     
  10. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with your first point and slightly disagree with your last point.

    A bitchy woman has a male counterpart, a jerk. That's not to say that an assertive woman is a bitch. A bitch is a bitch and a jerk is a jerk. Too often you hear a bitch describe herself as a "strong woman that the guy are just afraid of". No.

    There are both men and women who are good and effective managers. Let's not excuse the jerks and bitches.

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  11. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Or a request for a date.
     
  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    You could also answer: Yes or No.
     
  13. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    The ideal office would have moveable partitions so you could screen yourself off or be wide open, depending on your mood. (And there's a possibility that some people might take the hint and respect your wishes.)
     
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  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    There's plenty of breathing space to arrange things. Lots of room for whiteboards, lots of wall space. Just none of it belongs to a given person.

    Which would certainly be relevant if that's what open office actually meant. But that's your caricature, not my experience.
     
  15. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Good points, you.

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  16. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Agree.

    There are companies who design cubicles to fit their clients’ preferences so this could be done, which would satisfy everyone.

    And Dave, you could sit in the middle of the room, without a cubicle since you enjoy that so much.

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  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Haha. It's a team thing.
     
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  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    At the risk of speaking for Jeeves:
    A Yes or No would dignify your question. It was and completely non sequitur and accusatory. Fair to say you haven't been following the thread closely?
     
  19. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    That’s why you wear your headphones

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    I’m joking. If that’s your jam, so be it.
     
  20. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    No, I do not resent jobs. No, this has no bearing on my work. No, it's not a comment on women's efficiency.
    But as I have been making myself quite clear all along, I shouldn't have to answer such a charge.
     
  21. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Would you, if you think the majority are retards?
     
  22. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Why would such a charge be so perplexing?
     
  23. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Though it doesn't apply to me, I'll answer it Yes and No. But If I didn't follow, I might refrain from attacking somebody - even if they had irked me at some time in the past and even if I considered them less intelligent than myself. And I usually don't even think in words like 'retard', let alone use them on anyone.
     

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