Is it wrong to have sex for fun, knowing it might possibly lead to an abortion?

never confuse the complex human emotional mind with corporate litigious legal liability psychopaths

it is common for issues to resurface in different forms months or years later in some other aspect.
more so if you are a high functioning intellectual
or have some type of mild disorder like OCD or borderline schizophrenia or autistic spectrum behavioural modes that trigger set responses(around 65% of the population)

 

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I agree completely, God did indeed make sex fun as a great blessing to mankind.

And we have corrupted it, to the point where we are killing our own offspring, to escape the consequences of that self induced corruption.

 

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Yep.

Apparently you don't - so you might want to drop the "holier-than-thou" attitude.

 

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What baby? A fertilized egg that may not even make it to the uterus, or a little bloob of goo after a couple of weeks?

Its funny when you eat a chicken egg you don't call it a baby chicken, you call it an omelette.

Strange how this works. We can kill (and eat) every animal and we're called "hunters", but when we abort a non-viable fetus, we call that murder. Since when is human life more important than all the other mammals on earth?

You believe in the sanctity of life? I'll let George Carlin answer this profound question about human interpretation of the sanctity of life.

 

Will we actualy escape our corruption... or will we be punished by God.???

 

Yes, I am happy, thank you for judging me.

James, what is your basis for morality?

You might want to dumb it down a bit, don’t forget, you are talking to a “fundie,” after all.

 

I think that is up to God.

Personally, I think that God is perfect in all of His judgements, balancing justice and mercy perfectly on a razor’s edge. Understanding and dividing the thoughts and intents of the human heart, far, far better than I ever could. And I am very far from being perfect.

There is only one Judge of mankind, and I am not Him.

I judge no one here personally, but I probably say stupid things at times, that could be incorrectly taken as being that. People certainly love to judge me. It apparently makes them feel better about themselves.

Do I understand everything He does? No way!
But do I trust Him completely? Yes!!!

There is, to use a common and false evolution proponent’s phrase, “overwhelming evidence” for Him. In His case, I think the phrase is accurate.

What do you think?

 

What I think is that your God is not my God.

So any attempts to appeal to your God as an authority over anyone other than yourself are a swing and a miss.

 

Of course!

What is your basis for morality?

As you know, my basis for morality is God acting in History. And there is overwhelming evidence for that.

It will be fun to see if you and James R agree?

 

& yet it is woman who bares the creation of life
and you want to take that right away and own it by owning womens rights to their own body.
like denying god gods rite to create life god chooses.
yet there you want to play god over others.
isnt that taking gods name in vein ?

what am i missing ?
asserting your personal belief over another person is defying the tenet of "freedom to choose"... "and he gave adam and eve the choice to choose him"
yet.. there you are attempting to deny that choice you claim to be at the very center of belief.

the convenient escape clause to claim humans have miss-interpreted something that humans wrote...
how does that work other than in a completely hypocritical way ?

from a religious stand point, considering god made women the important one who bares new life and creates it, why is it that men think they can lay claim to own god and religion and then change gods opinion about who should be in charge of creating life ?

 

Well, let's start with the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Now, only sentient creatures can think such a thought, and a fetus is not capable of such a coherent thought, the sentiment applies to the ones who are sentient: the mother.

 

I hope not!

Would you detonate a bomb in a city full of homosexuals to act as God did in Sodom?
Would you kill all the children of a conquered village - except for the young virgin women, who you would give to your soldiers to rape, as God commanded?
Would you try to wipe out most of Mankind, as God did during the Flood?
Would you kill as many firstborns in a town as you could, to act as God did in Egypt?
Would you kill "both man and woman, infant and nursing child" in a town to act as God did in Amalek? You'd really murder a nursing infant?

I surely hope you are not so hateful and depraved as to follow in God's footsteps in those instances.

 

Don't forget that it's okay to have children ripped to bits by a bear if they make fun of a bald man!

There's no evidence that "god" has acted any way at all in history.

 

No, I would not, I am not God.
But He certainly is righteous in all His judgements.
Praise Him!

 

Ah. So your basis for morality is not God acting in History.

So sometimes it is OK - even righteous - to kill infants and nursing children. I guess that answers the whole "is abortion wrong?" question.

 

Wow, ya got me with the bears, I am done for!

There are plenty more of those available you can hit me with! I have studied many of them.

Condemn God if you wish, that is your choice.

I will praise Him!

 

No, my basis for morality really is God acting in history.

You keep, apparently deliberately, misrepresenting me.

That’s OK, I know why you do it, and I forgive you!

 

What is your basis for morality?