What is reality ?

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by Mark Turner, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    That's bullshit too. When you first started posting I was one that answered your questions respectfully, and continued to do so even when others raised to possibility that you were actually that other screwball we once had...something theorist I recall.
    It appears that they were right.
     
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  3. river

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    Really pad , you know what he means .
     
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  5. Mark Turner Banned Banned

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    • Please do not troll.
    Well, starting a sentence with c is not a capital letter , so I put C , yes it is c .

    The transition of light in a vacuum is c .


    Light has no propulsion mechanism , the exothermic process of high energy points to less energy points is c .
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    But you weren't starting any sentence!

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    Light doesn't need any propulsion system, it is created going at "c" and continues at "c ", unless in anything other then a vacuum.
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Explain "transition". Are you talking about speed? If so, why use the non-standard term "transition"?

    Is English perhaps not your first language?

    This is a meaningless sentence.

    You need to stop making stuff up.
     
  9. river

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    Light needs a source .

    Physical objects , Galaxies , Quasars , Stars etc . Is the fundamental source of all light . Without them light would not exist .
     
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  11. Mark Turner Banned Banned

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    Transition , the process or period of changing from one state or condition to another as google definition .
    The speed of transition is the speed of light c.
    When I turn on a light bulb the high energy propagates into space because of the lesser energy surrounding space.
    Isn't that so ? considering the number of times I've given information already .
     
  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Has anybody said anything to dispute that? No, they have not. Why do you bring it up? It doesn't follow from anything in the preceding discussion.
     
  13. river

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    Because it is important to understand . Reality
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Light is created at "c " and always remains constant at "c" in a vacuum. Nothing to do with more or less energy of space, which is, or would be, more or less a vacuum.
     
  15. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    'c' is the speed of light through space. We all agree on that, I hope.

    What does this "transition" idea add to the concept of speed? Are you saying that the light changes state as it moves? What does that mean? What states are you talking about?

    If you want to talk about the speed of light, just say "speed of light".

    I notice that whereas previously you said the "transition of light is c", now here you're suddenly you're saying the speed of transition is c. So, you've changed either the way you're expressing your idea, or you've flip-flopped to a different idea entirely. If you'd just said "the speed of light in vacuum is c" in the first place, nobody would have argued with you.

    Do you think it's so? Or are you just making something up on the spot?

    From what you've written, I take away that you believe that something in the form of "high energy" propagates out from a light bulb, and that the reason that it leaves the light bulb is that there is less energy outside the bulb, in some sense.

    So, tell me what the physical principle is that you're using to arrive at this reason for the propagation of light. What is it about the low energy outside that makes the high energy leave?

    It also sounds to me like you think energy is sort of like a substance.

    Science starts with observation. What we observe when we turn on a light bulb is that light comes out from inside. We have some well-developed physical theories that explain why light comes out when we turn on the electricity, and how the light travels once it leaves the bulb. But here's the problem I'm having: your "energy" explanation above doesn't ring true to me as "the reason that it leaves the bulb", based on my understanding of the relevant science. So, I start to wonder whether you actually know anything much about how or why a lightbulb produces light, or how or why light propagates through space (from any source).

    The information you give about science almost invariably strikes me as full of holes, and is often factually incorrect. And that's when you manage to express yourself clearly enough that I can make some sense out of what you're saying. Mostly, I find that the true things you say are the obvious things, and you quickly get lost as soon as you start talking about the scientific explanation for this or that.

    To tell you the truth, I forget now how a discussion about "what is reality" got into a debate about the speed of light and so on in the first place. At the very least, that suggests to me a lack of focus on the topic of the thread, which you started.
     
  16. river

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    Light is not created at " c " . This statement is nonsense .
     
  17. Mark Turner Banned Banned

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    In spectral emissions it is recognised that high energy propagates to lesser energy points of space . Your assumption that space is a vacuum doesn't account for spatial fields occupying that vacuum such as a hypothetical Higgs field .
    In consideration of ZPE , zero point energy we can presume also propagates to less energy , less dense points of space . A variation of hot to cold , basic thermodynamics .
    Light density seems passive ?
     
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    So, I read back over the thread, and the speed of light was introduced here:

    We've spent a fair amount of time dealing with the fallout from that nonsense statement, but I'm hoping we've helped clear things up for you a bit now, Mark.

    Do you now agree that 'c' is, in fact, the speed of light, contrary to what you said when all this started? Can we agree on that, at least?

    You might now like to outline your understanding of the Higgs field and its relevance to the propagation of light for us, if you still believe it is important. I suggest you start with a quick explanation of what the Higgs field is, just to refresh my memory.
     
  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said, light is created at "c" and always remains at "c' in a vacuum.
    The rest of your post is word salad, noting that ZPE is the energy of a system at zero. Have you heard of the CMBR?
     
  20. river

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    Higgs field is a field which influences the Higgs particle some how .

    This " field " is imaginary . It has no basis in reality .
     
  21. river

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    CMBR , cosmic microwave back ground radiation .

    So what ?
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    What do you mean by "spectral emissions"? Is that just a fancy way of talking about light being emitted by something?

    Are you saying that the direction that light travels is somehow related to the "energy" of points in space? I'm not understanding your ideas about energy propagation. You're not using "energy" as an equivalent to "light" here, are you? Or are you?

    You have yet to explain the relevance of the Higgs field to the propagation of light. I'll wait until you have done that before commenting further.

    Explain
    (a) what is light density
    (b) what it means for a density to be passive (and is the opposite of that an "active" density)?
    (c) why light density seems passive to you (if it does).

    Thanks.
     
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  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Good explanation. Very thorough.

    I see. What was all that fuss about with the LHC and the Higgs boson?

    Is the Higgs boson an imaginary particle influenced by an imaginary field? Or maybe a real particle influenced by the imaginary field? Or what.

    I look forward to your detailed explanation, which I assume is coming.
     

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