Did Nothing Create Everything?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by SetiAlpha6, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    I disagree, I think there is evidence that Moses existed, particularly at the Mountain of God Site.

    And there is evidence that the Israelites were slaves in Egypt as well. The Boston Papyrus provides an Egyptian slave list containing Hebrew names.

    There is evidence for this at the Mountain of God in Saudi Arabia.

    The movie Patterns of Evidence makes a case that the common date of the Exodus is currently inaccurate and needs to be revised.

    A revised date placed a little earlier fits Egyptian history and the Exodus Account together like a hand and a glove.

    There is a Papyrus written in the Exodus time period that describes the plagues from an Egyptian perspective. The Ipuwer Papyrus.

    There is preliminary evidence for a massive Camp at the base of the Mountain of God.

    More research needs to be done and will be done to confirm this.

    There is also a mass gravesite there which could be studied to determine the date of burial and the genealogy of the people buried there. The gravesite is in Saudi Arabia but the burial style is not Islamic.

    Thanks for your comments!

    There is so much more evidence for the historicity of Exodus than this.

    I would encourage you to think for yourself and not just follow the herd on this subject.

    The herd can be wrong at least sometimes.

    It is of course your choice, do with it what you wish.

    Best Regards!
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Revising the data to fit the desired narrative.

    Exactly the opposite of science.
     
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  5. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    There is certainly brimstone in the surrounding area. And pretty sure it is in an extremely rare purity level for it to be natural.

    I have not researched it myself very far yet.

    Is there any other area on the planet that has this high level of purity and ball form of Sulfur?

    Please let me know if you know of a second occurrence of this phenomenon some other place on the Earth.

    Personally, I would like to see some buildings that have been basically melted on the outside, but not on the inside. And for the ruins of many such buildings over a city size area?

    It did not seem like they claimed to know for certain even what they found or were looking at on the sea floor.

    I don’t always catch ever detail in a film.
    Did I miss that?
     
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  7. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Yes!

    Perhaps, but there is also evidence for revising the date, which is science. The revised date is not arbitrary. If science follows the evidence where it leads, I see no problem with that.

    Holding onto a false date only to hold onto a different desired narrative, would also be the opposite of science.

    I am sure you agree!
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    And if that ever happens, we'll revisit the issue.

    Until then, there is insufficient evidence.
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yep.

    Do you research archaeology to strengthen your faith?

    Possibly, but that would be an excellent study that could strengthen or weaken this example.

    Unfortunately they could not explore further due to being restricted to the area they surveyed. I agree though.

    Nothing is for certain. These studies are done like science works. The theory evolves with time with more evidence added after each expedition.

    Me too, especially watching on a computer.
     
  10. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Scholars currently disagree about the dating of the Exodus. But we do have literally a Mountain of evidence for the reality of the Exodus on the ground right now. We have the Mountain of God itself and all of the evidence and Geography around it.
     
  11. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Trust me. God could appear in front of Richard Dawkins and bust his nose open and disappear, and Dawkins would still not believe in God.
     
  12. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I am very interested in geography and archeology.

    The Christian faith has always been based on historic events, real people, and real places, and has never been otherwise.

    Apparently the brimstone has been tested to be 98.4% pure sulfur, which is, according to Wikipedia, “significantly more pure than naturally occurring sulfur.”
     
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  13. Sancho Banned Banned

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    Yep. B discovered that it is true...something from nothing.

    Close your eyes and open them again.

    Fuck! You people are retarded. (My apologies..."Stupid")
     
  14. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    As far as I know, I've always existed so no beginning.
     
  15. Sancho Banned Banned

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    And Know end.
     
  16. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. New stars are born every day.
     
  17. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    So, is this about google maps proving some historical accuracy of the Bible, the existence of God, or both?
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Lol, No, those sites provide no such thing, your claim is as egregious as it is insulting to our intelligence.
     
  19. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So, we can conclude God appeared before you and busted your nose open which is the reason you believe in God?

    Dawkins is an evidence based thinker, so he would certainly take a broken nose into consideration unlike those who don't bother thinking.
     
  20. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Have you just come on here to argue?

    Why not disappear and come back once you have sorted out your ego problem.
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    He does seem argumentative, but he makes a good point.

    Dawkins is an evidence-based thinker. If God appeared and turned the world inside out with a snap of his fingers, Dawkins would accept that as compelling. As would I.

    BTW, "If someone says 'trust me...' - don't."
     
  22. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly. "compelling".
     
  23. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Why? What problem do you have with the many evidences at the Mountain of God Site?
     

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