so you admit you are confused.... ok... I only "think" what I "think"about this situation based on published stats and media reports. so based on what is available, The COVID-19 is currently believed to be transmitted only by direct contact. therefore: The COVID-19 is currently believed NOT to be transmitted by aerosol transmission. However there have been unconfirmed reports from Chinese authorities that it may be by aerosol transmission. Now given that the spread of this illness has appeared to be reducing according to stats provided by the Chinese government the notion of aerosol transmission is most likely invalid. It is worth noting that Chinese Authority provided data is considered to be unreliable, because they them selves do not know due to the sheer scale of the disaster. Therefore at this stage all data, beliefs etc can not be seen as being totally credible due to the lacking of precise information. My personal position is, if I had to take one, is that I do not know.
That is incorrect, per the CDC. In fact, it's backwards. But what does the CDC know, eh? They must be "confused" too. Carry on.
Nonsense! CDC is closely monitoring an outbreak of respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus (named by the World Health Organization as “2019-nCoV”) that was first detected in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China and which continues to expand. Chinese health officials have reported tens of thousands of infections with 2019-nCoV in China, with the virus spreading from person-to-person in many parts of that country. Transmission to healthcare personnel (HCP) in China has also been reported in the media; however, there is not yet detailed information about those transmission events. Infections with 2019-nCoV, most of them associated with travel from Wuhan, are also being reported from a growing number of international locations, including the United States. The first confirmed instance of person-to-person spread of 2019-nCoV in the United States was reported on January 30, 2020. Much is unknown about 2019-nCoV. Current knowledge is largely based on what is known about similar coronaviruses. Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that are common in humans and in many different species of animals, including camels, cattle, cats, and bats. Rarely, animal coronaviruses can infect people and then spread between people such as with SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV, and likely now with 2019-nCoV. Early reports suggest spread from person-to-person most likely happens during close exposure to a person infected with 2019-nCoV. Person-to-person spread may occur similar to other coronaviruses, mainly via respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs. These droplets can land in the mouths, noses, or eyes of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Currently, the extent to which touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, contributes to transmission is unclear. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/guidance-risk-assesment-hcp.html Dated: 08/Feb/2020 Given the caliber of this discussion it is worth noting that the situation is subject to change at any time...
Translation: The predicted method of transmission is via aerosols. But as I am sure you will conclude, the CDC is "confused."
and you can provide evidence that what you claim is founded? please do so... defaming the CDC destroys it's credibility... you do realise this don't you...
AFAIK Other than specialized self contained labs there is no effective quarantine regimes for airborne viruses.
Really? On page one, you were claiming biological weapon, "genetically manipulated" and "artificial": Questioned why it was targeting ethnic Chinese only (when it was not) and used the words "genetically specific" [*chortle*]: Shoot to kill orders without any proof whatsoever: That was just from page one. On page two, you start with the 'airborne' claims: Billvon responded to you with more patience than you deserve: You respond by clearly demonstrating a complete lack of reading and comprehension and again reposting the claims that it is "airborne": You made various comments, posed as questions because that's what trolls do, about it being airborne. By page three, you went back to misrepresenting what people had said and then spectacularly attempting to deny your panic driven scaremongering xenophobic claims earlier in the thread, basically outing yourself as a liar: I could go on, but you get my drift. Already done so. Stop lying and stop trolling. You posted the link and then through a series of posts, argued about how effective quarantine measures could be if it is airborne. My favourite line was when you dialed it up a bit more and asked: That, by the way, was your response to Billvon correctly responding to your claims and questions about how the response would be if it was "airborne".. Frankly, the fact that you are trying to deny your own arguments in this thread shows that you are dishonest. This is not new behaviour from you. We have been here before, numerous times. Stop trolling and lying. Then maybe you should stop carrying on like you are an expert. Given your complete inability to even use google (go back and look at your demands for proof that non 'ethnic Chinese' had contracted the disease as a prime example), perhaps, just perhaps, you should refrain from trolling and lying when people actually provide you with the correct information. Stop trolling.
Seeing as this thread had deteriorated in to senseless nonsense I recommend that it be locked for the record... Obviously sane discussion is not possible at this time.
Distance. Barriers. Disinfection and sanitation. That's why quarantines work. I know you don't care for facts, but if you are interested, consider that TB is airborne, and cases are very often quarantined. You might even research that fact, to see whether doctors consider quarantine for TB effective. Or you could just post whatever frantic thought passed through your mind at that second, which seems to be your usual process. You just posted it. Did you not read the material you posted?
lol... where does it say that it is predicting that it will become airborne? here is the quote you refer to again: your post:
"Person-to-person spread may occur similar to other coronaviruses, mainly via respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs. These droplets can land in the mouths, noses, or eyes of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs." In other words, aerosol transmission. Tell me which of those words you do not understand.
so you do not under stand the difference between direct/contact transmission and airborne. in the context of this discussion... there is a distinct difference and a significant one... May be someone else could help you...because I give up trying to clarify your confusion... SINGAPORE: There is no evidence the novel coronavirus is passed on through aerosol transmission, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Monday (Feb 10) as it gave an update on the coronavirus situation in Singapore. The ministry said it looked into reports the virus could be transmitted through aerosol, but that there was currently no indication this could happen. src: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...coronavirus-aerosol-transmission-moh-12418446
It is quite clear that you do not understand . . . pretty much anything on this topic, as your comments have made clear. The CDC said that transmission was likely airborne. China disagrees. Pretty simple. Again, if you don't understand what the words you posted mean, feel free to ask.
Nope. I expect them to take the CDC's word for it. The same word you posted. You are in a hole, and you just keep digging it deeper and deeper. I can see why you'd want this thread locked before you embarrass yourself any further, but I would remind you that you could simply stop posting. You'll feel better, and people on this forum will be better informed.
Likely airborne or actually airborne? which? They state that they do not know... that it is unclear etc... try again!
I would direct you to the CDC report that you yourself posted. It's pretty clear on the topic. Or, if that uses words that are too large, feel free to read one of my synopses of their post. Again, if you don't understand any of the words, feel free to ask.
