A world with a loving God.

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Xelasnave.1947, Nov 2, 2019.

  1. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    Holy cow, excuse me I'm off.
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    According to you, the soul is the brain?
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Of course, if there exists energy in any form, it would have an associated time frame. However if this energy is a fleeting moment, the time only for the duration of that moment would emerge. If the energy were to dissipate thereafter, the time of existence for that energy would also disappear.

    Time does not need to exist as a dimension, a timeless permissiveness is sufficient to allow for change to occur at which instant time emerges as a result of duration of that change. Time does not exist independent of physical existence of something else.
     
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  7. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    The uncertainty includes zero energy. It just also includes non-zero energy. I've already tried to give you a rudimentary education about the uncertainty principle. You either get it or not.
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    In what sense is the soul continuous, then?

    If each body contains essentially an entirely new person, what element does the soul add to a person?
     
  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I think he's some kind of Hare Krishna type.
     
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  10. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Looks like you missed the whole point of the movie.

    A great example of mindless prejudice. Racism is no different.

    You need to do something about your hatred.
     
  11. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Krishna?
     
  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    As soon as a religious person starts talking about "energy" and using words like "vibration" and "field", you pretty much know they are just making stuff up. No doubt it all feels real to Jan. The sciency jargon is an attempt to give a false aura of legitimacy to the religious claims.

    "Energy signature". Nice one!

    Gotta keep those lovin' good vibrations a-happenin' with her.

    Is this about reincarnation again?

    Hmm. That's a modern update on the ancient idea that the semen (the man's "seed") was a little human being. In the olden days, women were seen as little more than vessels or receptacles for the "seed". Ova were unknown.

    In the bible, we see that God disapproves of men spreading their "seed" indiscriminately, which is one reason why Christians have a tradition of laying guilt trips on men for masturbating.

    The idea that "life begins at conception" is a fairly modern one. It is interesting that Jan has adopted this more modern notion of the moment at which "ensoulment" supposedly occurs. Also interesting that the soul enters the semen first, rather than inhabiting the fertilised ovum, say. I guess that even in modern times the men are considered more special in God's eyes.

    Interesting to note how Jan, the evolution denier, thinks that there is an "evolutionary scale".

    It's really a pity that Jan never bothered to learn anything about evolution. He is still stuck in the biblical idea of a heirarchy of Creation with human beings at the pinnacle. The sad thing is that he also believes that science supports that idea. Without having to confront himself with the reality revealed by modern science, Jan can happily live in a fantasy world that makes perfect sense to him.

    It's posts like these they really give us useful insight to one kind of religious mind.
     
  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Typo. Fixed. I knew I could count on you to make a pedantic correction. Thanks!
     
  14. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    You know so much!
    Shakes head...
     
  15. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, I see.

    Jan, you asked a few posts up, why I thought you were a Christian. I dunno, it's been a few years since reading a some of your earlier threads, maybe I've confused you with another member. But, looking back, do you not believe in the theory of evolution? If not, that's usually a Christian (or Abrahamic) fundamentalist belief. Maybe I'm confusing you with SetiAlpha.
     
  16. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Okay. Allowing your children to stay in your house. Allowing your children to learn from their mistakes, while offering them the benefit of your experience (should they choose to take advantage of it).
    A person can allow something to occur out of love. Are you for real Q?
    Really? Are you really going to start with this now?
    I thought we were getting along just fine.

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  17. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Don’t remember saying that.
    The brain is a part of the body.
    The soul, by definition, isn’t.
     
  18. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Consciousness, mind, and ego.
     
  19. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    If only you had used ''non-zero energy '' some time back. I think your saying something now about the zero energy (average) of the Vacuum energy? Is that right?
    But, doesn't that mean positive and negative energy both have to ''exist'' to form an average of zero?
    And, if we are talking here about vacuum energy, forgive me if we are not, then where is this vacuum?
     
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  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Is a causal action not a result of a dynamic function, i.e. a non-zero condition?
     
  21. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    You said the soul is: "Consciousness, mind, intelligence, ego (not false ego)."

    Those are all functions of the brain, hence you believe the soul is the brain.
     
  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    That is allowing, which has nothing to do with love.

    Sure, but that does NOT mean allowing is the same thing as love, which you are claiming. Are you for real, Jan?

    We would be getting along fine if you could look in a dictionary for the meanings of words before posting them. Allowing is not love, not on this planet.

    And still, no valid examples of God's love.
     
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  23. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    You allow because you love them.
    Not necessarily emotional love, but unconditional love.
    I’m for real Q. The question is. Are you?
    Nobody said “allow”and “love” are the same thing.
    God allows you to live, and experience.
    By interacting with nature. God creates, and maintains this manifestation.
     

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