Could the universe be just part of some bigger "living" lifeform?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by noope, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. river

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    Humans have evolved beyond survival .
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    And that is just humans alone, no? What about the rest of the mammals? Don't they have a shepherd watching them?
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Tell that to the Corona virus.
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, the rocks created life. No brain there, unless you want to advance the concept of "rocks for brains"....

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  8. river

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    There will always be bugs that challenge us , here on Earth and out there . Where we Explore . In the Universe .
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, river. Life Forms are self-organized quasi-intelligent mathematically evolved patterns. Some life forms have brained intellect in various degrees of complexity.
     
  10. river

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    Inotherwords

    Without the material physical things , Hence Galaxies , Suns , Planets etc . Could never exist .

    And Life could not manifest .
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    We are exploring the Universe? Lol. We are just beginning to look at the solar system and physically we haven't gone past the moon, our nearest neighbor.
    Exploring the Universe? Maybe in a thousand years, if we are still alive by then.
     
  12. river

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    Yes Write4U .

    Why did the patterns evolve ?

    What came first , the physical reality or mathematics ?
     
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  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yep three fundamental particles make up ALL that you see.

    Matter, by Ron Kurtus (revised 23 March 2016)
    https://www.school-for-champions.com/science/matter_fundamental_particles.htm#.XnqlaKNKjb0

    Everything you see are self-organized patterns formed by these three fundamental particles.
     
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    Trolling again river? Should I report you?
    The first fundamental particles came about due to phase transitions and false vacuums, when the Superforce started to decouple at around t+10-35 seconds. But hey! that's science far above your pay grade and weird interests.
    Just as I have told you many times.
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Where did your cosmic brain come from? Seems like a little more complicated question than where a quantum of energy came from. The current scientific theory is they were formed during the Big Bang or perhaps that was the instant when your hypothesized cosmic brain exploded and leaked it's plasma all throughout the baby universe?..

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  17. river

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    To your first statement ; from its enviroment out side of its self .
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Mathematics is an abstract Natural Law, which preceded matter, else matter could not have self-organized into repeating patterns.

    Note that Chaos theory already allows for the creation of patterns form chaos. That is a mathematical function and is an inherent essence of the universe. If you want to speak of an intelligent brain, you are addressing a quasi-intelligent mathematical essence of spacetime. No motive or intent, just "relative physical values (potentials) and mathematical functions" is all that is needed to create ALL that you see.
     
  19. river

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    How did mathematics precede matter ?

    Upon what then did mathematics base its self , before matter ?
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Mathematics are abstract logical functions, fundamental abstract Laws of Physics, based on recurring self-ordering patterns i.e. symmetry, balance, geometry, equality, etc. etc.
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-universe-made-of-math-excerpt/

    Mathematical functions appear to behave in an intelligent manner, but are in no way related or connected to motive or intent. They are quasi-intelligent functions and totally sufficient to produce everything we can observe or even predict, such as the Higgs boson.
     
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  21. river

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    Disagree to your post #77

    Probabilities .

    Based on nothing . Literally no-thing . Nothing
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Prove it.

    I can prove a mathematical universe. It is what all of Science is built on.

    Where does your uncaused motivated intelligence come from? Is that what Theism is based on? Which version would that be?
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The voice of ignorance
    Thank you, probability is a mathematical function.
    I rest my case. But you may continue to prove me right.....

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