The Confederate Flag

Discussion in 'World Events' started by dumbest man on earth, Jun 15, 2020.

  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the flag is torn
    it has the eagle on it which is not the real flag
    he has a very large bunch of keys which seems inordinately large
    he is a "red-head" so has minority recessive genes which goes against white supremacy(he would be short listed to be removed)
    he is wearing an apple watch which was made in china
    his clothes are probably all made in china by chinese
    his flag is probably made in china by chinese
    the wood he is holding as the flag pole is probably sourced from Asia illegal Forrest clearly illegal logging
    his BMI puts him in extreme risk for strokes & heart attacks

    the style of his Chinese jeans is actually japanese (which is quite funny if he has not bought them from japan)
    the cell phone in his right pocket will be chinese made
    probably most of the steel in the keys he has on his belt comes from china

    (what am i supposed to be noticing?)
     
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  3. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    You're just highlighting the massive hypocrisy that exists in most people...
    Ayran racial supremacist he is, with out realizing he is not fit to be a member. He's got red hair so off to the concentration camps he will go... (glib)
     
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  5. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    The stars and stripes teeshirt could have been made in California.
     
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  7. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    I just told you that it's a nonsense premise. No one is going to hoist the battle flag when its obviously being flown by white supremacists. That's obviously not what it represents to them, nor the right context for it. It would only serve ignorant people like you who demand to conflate the two groups, thereby lending the KKK an inflated perception of their numbers...no doubt good for race baiting. And when is it on white folks to chant about black civil rights, as if blacks can't do it themselves? They aren't children, you know. Again, wrong context to fly the battle flag, unless you're black.

    Retaliation? Free speech is protected against violent retaliation. I've never flown, nor even own, a Confederate flag, so that's just more of your obvious ignorance. If free speech is about protecting only speech we like, it isn't really free.

    When the alternatives to "no reaction" is explicitly seeing it as racist or simple heritage, that literally means they don't see it as racist. Having no reaction to a homeless person means you don't see them as harmful or threatening to you.
     
  8. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    At least you make your priorities clear.
     
  9. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    If it's so obvious that the Confederate flag doesn't represent racism to most of its supporters then why do they have so much difficulty making it obvious? Show me just one example of a large group of white-skinned right wing Confederates confronting white supremacists for stealing their heritage, with or without the flags. It's a virtually non-existent phenomenon, like a white slave owner who's not racist.

    There are millions of white Confederates who chant negative things about black civil rights, so why do we not see millions of white Confederates telling them to shut up? Again, it's because the ones chanting racist stuff represent almost the entire Confederate population.

    The choices on that survey weren't between "no reaction" and "it's racist/not racist", they were "positive reaction/negative reaction/no reaction". No reaction in this context does not imply that they don't consider it racist. This is why you shouldn't try to mix two completely different studies in one single meta.
     
  10. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Just playing tit for tat with paddoboy trolling user names. Was that too much for you to grasp?
     
  11. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    No one said it was "obvious", especially in the context of a KKK rally. It's not just a matter of what southerners believe. It's also an issue of the perceptions of others, which southerners are not unaware of.
    Confederates generally do not confront white supremacists, because they're one and the same. Again, you've ignorantly conflated southern pride with Confederates. And the right generally understands that the freedom of speech also protects speech we do not like. We're not the side intent on shutting people up because their ideas scare us. We prefer bad ideas be shown as such in the full light of day, for everyone to see for themselves.

    And again, look how far you had to move your own goalposts to get to your ignorant gotcha.

    No, it's because good people expect others are just as capable of determining bad ideas for themselves. Aside from the fact that opposing them gives them a false air of importance, threat, and attention they can use to recruit. They do represent the Confederate population, again, because that's not coextensive with southerners nor southern pride. Again, the right is not about telling people to shut up, even the evil KKK or ignorant left.

    No reaction literally means neither of the other two options. No reaction certainly doesn't somehow mean a negative reaction. Man, the mental gymnastics you require.
     
  12. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Click because it looks like what?

    Not at all. But you could have picked any frog. It's like, I could pick any song to go with a banner image, but usually I have a reason, and some days just call for "Technodildo"↱, or sometimes, "Crash Years"↱, &c. I have to be careful with something like, "Girls With Guns"↱, and pick my context well; this is Sciforums, so it's worth being careful about a song like, "Keep It in the Family"↱, because it turns out a lot of those who railed, once upon a time, against political correctness as some liberal monstrosity, or these days bawl about SJW snowflakes, are also hypersensitive in perceiving threats. To the other, it isn't really that much thought; I can easily spend more effort settling on a click slogan. And, honestly, the Hayashibara coincidence that just occurred in―... never mind.

    Between making a decision, or not giving a damn so you grabbed that frog as the first thing you came across, it says what it says.
     
  13. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, I intentionally picked the image of a frog that most makes me think of paddoboy.
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Except in this case Paddo is short hand slang for the suburb and school I went to, in Paddington in Sydney.

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    Vociferous is obvious to all and you wear it like a badge of honour, proud of your loud forcefull ways and redneckery.
    Sorry to drag you out of the closet, but the door was always open.

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  15. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Click to … y'know, never mind.

    Well, that right there is some intelligence on display. Moreover, yeah, priorities. Still. That part doesn't change.
     
  16. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    And? Would you quit incessantly harping on my screen name if I tell you why I chose it? I doubt it, considering your incessant straw men, even after being told otherwise.
     
  17. Vociferous Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't help you any.
    The name Paddington means The Estate Of Padda and is of English origin.

    padda (plural paddas, diminutive paddatjie)
    1. frog, toad
    Still fitting.
     
  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Can you ask him about the penis t shirt he must have me on ignore....my bet is if he saw my post he is probably having one made up.

    Alex
     
  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    and, now
    a brief comedic musical interlude
     
  20. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    ok
    I'll bite
    why did you choose that screen name?
    and
    while your in the mood
    also explain the avatars?
     
  21. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    (Q), Beer w/Straw and sculptor like this.
  22. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    OK

    That was crafty.
     
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  23. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Childish garbage from the least excusable ignoramuses on this entire planet.

    The hundreds of millions of dollars in corporate media propaganda it took to keep that infantile nonsense and bullshit front and center in American politics was not spent by people who respect their victims, btw. The corporate media driven infantilization of the poorly educated white American "conservative" man was not the work of adults dealing with other adults in grownup political discourse. It was calculated grift by the worst of the American rich, and its foundation is in contempt for the suckers.

    That, like the rest of my posting here, is not obscure or hidden knowledge, not fringe speculation: it's been documented by hundreds of researchers, in three hundred years of the plainly written history of the American nation. Off the cuff, if one's mental state is incapable of accepting information from the Fox-labeled "left": Lee Atwater said it plainly, in his deathbed confessions; this guy built a career on describing it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hofstadter; it has acquired many names one can search easily - the Southern Strategy being the relevant one here. It's normal, mainstream, documented, politically centrist, plainly evident fact.
     

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