Subjectivity in Psychology

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  1. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Subjectivity is the way of thinking and feeling of people. Subjectivity is a unique trait (as people are) and personality is a set of traits directed in one direction.

    The factors that influence in subjectivity are:

    1- The inheritance (temperament)
    2- The sex
    3- The family
    4- The school
    5- The university

    In the presence of a fact, for example an airplane in flight, we can obtain (predict) the following subjectivities:

    1- A schoolboy would say: The airplane flies like a bird.
    2- A housewife would say: Airplanes scare me.
    3- An university student would say: The airplane flies at high speed. It is faster than a car.
    4- An engineer would say: Airplane turbines must generate a large amount of energy for them to achieve the appropriate speed to take off from the ground. In the wings the airplane achieves lift.
     
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  3. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    The negative subjectivity is found in criminales, the immoral and the unjust.

    The positive subjectivity is found in the honest, the just and the altruits.
     
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  5. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Among the ways of interpreting the world,

    - Religion has 80% of subjectivity and 20% of objectivity.

    - Philosophy has 60% of subjectivity and 40% of objectivity.

    - Science has 40% of subjectivity and 60% of objectivity.
     
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  7. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    Are you able to provide any research that supports these numbers, or did you just dream them up? (Or . . . ?)
     
  8. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    They are based on the logic that you don't use.
     
  9. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    Enjoy your delusions. I've wasted sufficient time.
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I know a lot of housewives. One is a pilot. Another is a skydiver. A third used to work as an EMT for aerial rescues.

    It is easy to let your prejudices blind you to reality.
    Well, no. Aircraft engines do not generate energy; they generate thrust. That's what allows them to accelerate and maintain their speed. And turbines are not what generate that thrust. In a modern airliner engine, the thrust comes from the fan. (In a turboprop the thrust comes from the propeller.) The turbine engine provides the power (not energy) to run them.

    Looks like you have some work to do on your objectivity.
     
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  11. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Your subjectivity is wrong. The energy from the turbines produces the thrust.
     
  12. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. You - as usual - are the one in the wrong:

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    As you can see, the turbine blades actually produce a rearward "thrust", contributing less than nothing towards forward flight istelf.
     
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  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. You are confusing energy and power; you are also confusing torque and thrust.

    In a turboprop aircraft the fuel contains a certain amount of thermal energy. That energy is converted to mechanical power (not thrust) by the turbine engine. The mechanical power is converted by a gearbox and drives the propeller. The propeller produces thrust. Note that in many turboprops (like the popular PT6 series) the turbine operates backwards - it sucks air in from the rear and exhausts it in front. This is because the turbine itself does not produce thrust, so it doesn't matter if the exhaust comes out in an odd direction.

    A turbofan engine is almost identical, except there is no gearbox - the PTO turbine drives the fan directly.

    All airliners today use either turbofans or turboprops. Also note the use of "power" above. Power is the critical parameter for aircraft, because power is what is required for propellers to turn shaft torque into a certain amount of thrust sufficient for takeoff or cruise. Let's say, for example, that you lit off a turbine engine on the ground without spinning it up first. The fuel would just sit in the engine and burn. It would be converting chemical energy to thermal energy just fine. But it would produce zero mechanical power and would eventually destroy the engine. That's why turbofan startup procedures include getting to a certain N2 (compressor/turbine speed) before introducing fuel.

    Learn some science. Then you will be able to be objective and not subjective.
     
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  14. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    OK OK

    Let's say that there are three levels of veracity in subjectivity:
    1) true
    2) Incomplete
    3) false

    But, for Psychology what is important are the factors that influence subjectivity, not the veracity of it.
     
  15. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Opinion surveys are tests of subjectivity.
     
  16. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    No. They are measures of the product of subjectivity.
     
  17. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    What's the difference?
     
  18. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    A test of subjectivity establishes whether or not an opinion, assertion, comment etc are subjective or not.
    A measure of subjectivty establishes the extent to which an opinion, assertion, comment etc. are subjective.
    The first is binary, the second is a spectrum.
     
  19. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    For example?
     
  20. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    I have no examples. You are the one who introduced the term. I'm sinply clarifying what your phrase "a test of subjectivity" means in English. If that's not what you meant you need to rewrite your statement.
     
  21. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Then, you don't know what you are talking about.
     
  22. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    Please stop being silly. You are the one who claims there can be a test of subjectivity, not me, so you are the one who should have examples.
    Put another way, the meaning of the phrase is implicit in the meaning of test. You clearly think there is such a thing as a test of subjectivity. I have reservations about that, but you think such tests exist, so why are you asking me for examples when you are the one who believes they exist. That is illogical. It creates the impression you are the one who does not know what you are talking about.
     
  23. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense. Word salad.
     
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