I think therfore i am.
well i'm not a rock am i?
a rock does'nt think but it still is!

Might be your computer one day. See post in AI.

If you were not, would the rock still be?

Originally posted by grimmice
I think therfore i am.
well i'm not a rock am i?
a rock does'nt think but it still is! How do you know the rock is? Perhaps it's only a figment of your imagination.

How can you prove that the rock exists outside of your own mind?

Does reality exist, or is it a creation of our imaginations?

Do you actually exhist? Just try and prove it. Could even the all knowing God prove to himself that he exhist? Doubtful. And is he even a he?

I think the rock is there, so it is.

Well how about this, its a rock, and I think it is, therefore it is.

Are we talking about The Rock? That guy from <i>The Mummy Returns</i>? I'm pretty sure he exists, although the computer-generated version of him at the end of the movie was rather questionable.

I was rockin'on the rock the other day. Rock on. Yep, I'm sure it exists. Or else me and the rock's gotta talk!

I can prove that I exist. In the often quoted words of Descartes, "I think, therefore I am." The fact that I can think and that I am self-aware is proof that I exist as a mental entity.

are you sure you're not the figment of someone elses imagination?

You are missing the point. I may be a figment of someone elses imagination, which is why I can never prove that I am a physical entity. But I am self-aware and have control (or the illusion of control, which boils down to the same thing) over my own thoughts, which means I exist as a mental entity.

If I remember correctly, Douglas Adams said that we are all figments of someones imagination (in one of the hitchhikers books). Therefore, if you don't think, can you be not?

Or, how 'bout this? If you think you think, are you?
If you're a figment, how can you "think and therefore I am"? What if the thinker thinking your figment is also a figment? What are you?

Wait a sec.... I think I just lost myself.

I just want to know how you can be so sure that the rock does not think ?

I don't think anybody is claiming to be sure that the rock cannot think. The point is I cannot prove that the rock thinks, or that you think, just that I do.

it's nice to feel like god even if it is just of your own illusion/reallity




or mine =^)

Originally posted by Shadow
Or, how 'bout this? If you think you think, are you?
If you're a figment, how can you "think and therefore I am"? What if the thinker thinking your figment is also a figment? What are you?
Wait a sec.... I think I just lost myself.
I think I'm a figment, therefore I amn't. Therefore I'm not thinking, therefore I am. QED.

ok, how about we just throw the rock at you, and whislt its making you bleed we can discuss how both you and the rock both definatly existed in your imagination, if only for a brief moment, and that the rock can still be considered to exist, if not as an actual rock then as a consequence of it being a rock.

By the way, if you`re a thinker, what`s the heart of education?

Curiosity....is the heart of education
an open mind....is the soul
attitude the legs to walk on
these things combined will make the whole

What makes you so sure rocks can't think?

It's simple.

Since you're never fulfilled with your shitty lives - you're not imagining it.
Well... this presuming you're self aware.

And this proves that I am the master of everything, since I’m such a wonderful, wonderful and all around über kind of a fellow. Only my superiour power and potential could conceive a world so full of wonder and awe as mine is.

*flexes*

Curiosity....is the heart of education
an open mind....is the soul
attitude the legs to walk on
these things combined will make the whole


Nice poem there and it makes sense too. :cool:

I think therefore I wish a lot of other people didn’t exist. Because some of them just annoy the hell out of me.

I think therefore I wish a lot of other people didn’t exist. Because some of them just annoy the hell out of me.


Then there are those who you love and they love you too. You also like allot of people and those who you will hang with or read about.

But contact with those that annoy is inevitable in my line of work. They invade my bubble space on a daily basis. Having become enlightened to the fact that since they clearly don’t think then they are not makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Although in further thinking it would be my imagination creating them. So really what I need to figure out is why I’m doing this to myself. Deep down inside does a part of me realize when I’m having a good day and introduces one of these people to destroy all that is good? Sigh now I’m tired I need a nap.

Here's a rephrase:

I think, therefore <B>I know</B> I am.

Curiosity....is the heart of education
an open mind....is the soul
attitude the legs to walk on
these things combined will make the whole
The heart of education is the education of the heart. :p

The heart cannot be educated.

My name is I, therfore I am what, poetry. You are not. :)

The Heart of education is the meaning of what all should know, and yet not what all should know. :)