View Full Version : is it dead?
10-08-02, 08:21 PM
Alot of people say "Punk is dead".
for those of you, such as me, who care, what do you think? Is Punk (the culture AND the music) dead? i have my own ideas but i wanna hear what the general concensus is. i dunno about anywhere else, but its kind of a weird subject where i live...
Well, I still listen to The Sex Pistols (who doesn't) and this new form of Punk Rock doesn't do the genre any justice.
I find the new stuff very, very annoying, but that's my taste for you :rolleyes:
Anyway, to answer your question, yes, its dead. But it lives on in our hearts
10-08-02, 08:31 PM
It lives in the clothes of some highschool kids too
Well, over here in holland the punk community is most certainly not dead!
It has changed a lot though in the past couple of years with the rise of bands like blink 182 and others like it, attracting a whole new generation of punkers with different ideas and ideals then the ones that the first punkers had.
I believe those newcomers are most visible to the general public, thus strengthening the belief that original punk is dead. But if you walk around at festivals or check out small stages, you will still see lots of punks and skins roaming about, drinking beer and keeping punk alive!
10-09-02, 01:13 AM
im not a punker myself, but i have some diehard friends that would say it definately is not. they're a crazy bunch. i dont think it really ever dies, it just changes to fit the times. there are a few punk bands i like, and to me, they'll always be great.
10-10-02, 07:49 AM
the new punk music is boring and repetative, new age punk is dead but the old stuff....it will never die. Ramones and Sex Pistols etc were the best. Ive had this argument before about how nu-punk is dead, i suppose it comes down to taste. I hate nu-metal also, it is mostly the same and all the bands copy each other, there is no originality any more. I can say for one thing though- pop is dead and im happy for that.
I think the culture is dead but music is immortal in all of it's facets so it will live on. It just takes on a different persona.
Glad to hear it's still happening in Holland
(The place where everything brilliant goes to die and is then reborn !! :D ]
Of course in England we allow no such thing to live for very long.
Can't have the population going round being happy and pleasing their selves all the while.
This will not do!
My mate was in a local band a long time ago. He did the spitting.
Long live it all (except pop, I'm with the crunch on that one!)
10-10-02, 05:14 PM
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION....
the punk community of the late 70's, 80's, and even the early 90's was punk in its purest form. The sense of community,the individuality, the enrgy and feeling in the music, and the distaste for all things corporate.
the last was what hurt it so badly. bands that were truely talented could not go unnoticed forever, and the few that buckled under pressure of the allmighty dollar, seemed to have ruined it for everyone. these bands, the same they had ALWAYS been, were ostracised from the rest of the punk community, and it all seemed to fade away at the utter disgust of it all. *
recently, bands like blink-182, good charlotte, and new found glory, (all talented in their own right, but not what you'd call the "most pure" form of punk") have come to rise, along with a bastard offspring of post-punk punks. These kids are the same types of slaves as those they so loudly denounce, prancing around not in gap and abercrombie, but atticus and independant. the difference is only in the label.
But, if you look hard enough, punk is still around at a local level. my own state, small as it is, has a pretty good ammount of honest punk rock groups, and, if you look, a good population of what i would personally call "real" punk rockers. depending on you're definition of the term. and on the more accessible level, bands like the distillers, rancid (the off-spring of late 80's mega band "operation ivy") NOFX (they're STILL around), the distillers, anti-flag, and many others still carry the punk rock banner proudly.
Punks not dead, its just underground. Right where it wants to be.
10-10-02, 06:30 PM
I love punk. The Clash is one of my favorite bands!
Well the "Punk" culture is anyway.
Which is a shame.....
Has anyone read, John Lydon's Biography?
"No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs?"
He was a man with a vision, but it seems the general public got the wrong idea, as they so often do.
We could do with a revival........