Is not what we think or how it works. We simply think doing good will result in good karma and doing bad results in bad. We all know if we take a look at reality, life doesn't work so neatly and fairly. It's highly open to manipulation.

If it worked always in the most moral or ideal fashion, japan would not be the successful country it its. How even my life today and my displacement, is a result of the richochet of thier actions. But even I know there are good people in japan as well. Precious babies, children, those who would help you and be your friend as well as the bad. When I think of the trouble they caused asia, I think of the good people, even children and babies who were tortured and experimented on, if still here would not have witnessed justice but a shining successful nation. I am glad they are gone to not compound the horrible wounds and sense of injustice in the world. Regimes headed by evil, sick dictators would not happen and those of pure heart or good will would not suffer or pay the price. They suffer because they are a minority in a sea of variations of evil answering to a stronger one. The suffering, evil and mutilation of life that occurs here makes your head spin with no one to answer why is it this way. Innocence, goodwill, sincerity and love is so sorely needed and the root of all that is lifegiving, healing, and worth living for though it pays the highest price when it is the most precious gift.

But there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Karma takes awhile but justice eventually happens and the truth comes out hopefully making a better tomorrow for all .

The suffering, evil and mutilation of life that occurs here makes your head spin with no one to answer why is it this way.

Actually, almost any thinking person can answer "why" very easily. It's called greed, selfishness along with the desire to gain power and dominate others. Simple as that.

Your answer is indicative you never formed the concept of that question on a deeper level. We know the process on a cause and effect level from observation but that's not what I mean. No one knows "why" nature is built the way it is. That is the ultimate question.

The common human mind (using at top 10% of our brains) is not able to understand why everything is the way it is. But we can accept things as they are, trusting in a higher intelligence than ours, after all, our mind could not possibly create life by itself from scratch.

That is why such enphasis is done in "know yourself", because our body is a tiny representation of the Macro-Cosmos; in Orient, it is widely known that each of us is a Micro-Cosmos, a perfect representation of the whole, and that is why we need to understand every aspect of ourselves before we can understand higher realities.

The common human mind (using at top 10% of our brains) is not able to understand why everything is the way it is. But we can accept things as they are, trusting in a higher intelligence than ours, after all, our mind could not possibly create life by itself from scratch.


What if accepting things as they are has been part of the problem? In other words, what if certain humans have been assuming that things are OK - despite strong feelings to the contrarty - adn this assumption has continued to open the door for certain kinds of experiences.

Battered women do this.
Many people did this in relation to the noble classes - and continue in new incarnations in relation to the leaders of today.

Accepting what it outside us before we have accepted adn learned to trust everything that is inside us - including feelings of rejection and dislike for things outside us - is never going to work. The pattern of partial self-rejection will be reflected in the macro and create more struggle and hatred.

What if accepting things as they are has been part of the problem? In other words, what if certain humans have been assuming that things are OK - despite strong feelings to the contrarty - adn this assumption has continued to open the door for certain kinds of experiences.

Battered women do this.
Many people did this in relation to the noble classes - and continue in new incarnations in relation to the leaders of today.

Accepting what it outside us before we have accepted adn learned to trust everything that is inside us - including feelings of rejection and dislike for things outside us - is never going to work. The pattern of partial self-rejection will be reflected in the macro and create more struggle and hatred.

Iīm talking about compassionately accepting other people behaviour, because you arenīt responsible for them, only for you. But that doesnīt mean that if it affects you or someone near your reach you canīt do nothing about it!! There is always a chance to help others, and help ourselves; by unselfishly helping others we are canceling our karma of bad actions of the past.

Your answer is indicative you never formed the concept of that question on a deeper level. We know the process on a cause and effect level from observation but that's not what I mean. No one knows "why" nature is built the way it is. That is the ultimate question.

nature is not be questioned. It just happens, let the life flow as it is. Accept reality and make life a better world, by first changing yourself.

I think you misunderstand the concept. There is no such thing as good karma. It means action. It's not something that comes to you in the future. It means that the present moment is the result of Karma or previous actions. Goodness or badness is open to human interpretation.

I think you misunderstand the concept. There is no such thing as good karma. It means action. It's not something that comes to you in the future. It means that the present moment is the result of Karma or previous actions. Goodness or badness is open to human interpretation.

You are right, although it is just a matter of speech due to human perception. When I say bad karma, I mean a suffering action. I know that suffering is not intrisicaly bad, but it is our current perception isnīt it?

You are right, although it is just a matter of speech due to human perception. When I say bad karma, I mean a suffering action. I know that suffering is not intrisicaly bad, but it is our current perception isnīt it?

Uhuh, so getting run over by a bus and getting killed is not bad, just open for interpretation.

Sure. Why do people take things too far that it ends up being completely erroneous from being too dogmatic so it doesn't accurately apply or getting too abstract and it doesnt't apply. Why are people so dishonest to misinterpret things so coldly to completely miss the target?? There is bad and good in the context of our life here. You can take that to the bank! If you burn your finger on the stove, the pain is there to tell you 'danger, danger!!!' It' not open for interpretation, alright? It's called common sense and not twisting the truth! I fuking dare you to go to up to a family member who has lost a loved one due to tragedy, the starving, the diseased, the oppressed, the hurt and tell them it's all open for interpretation!!!! You dishonest pieces of shit as you eat, make sure your comfortable and safe every day and then have the nerve to spew that shit!

We all practice what is beneficial or not beneficial every day, otherwise don't spew bullfrickingcrap and stay in bed, starve and die, or better yet pour gasoline on yourself and set yourself on fire and "realize it's all open for interpretation if it's good or bad!!!!"

I fucking swear then you might as well have the goddamn guts to be honest and say you believe that rape, murder, anarchy, oppression, and cheating is open for interpretation whether it's good or bad and reveal the true asshole you are! Even better have see how fast you wake up and change your tune if it was you or your loved ones who were the victim! That would still make you a shitty, dishonest hypocrite as you save your goddamn ass and look out for your interests, lock your doors, enlist the help of law and order if need be on an everyday basis and you have the nerve to be shallow, assinine pricks falsely intellectualizing what is good or bad!!! Fukers.
Pfft

I must say Jesus Christ, WTF, etc!


I think you misunderstand the concept. There is no such thing as good karma. It means action. It's not something that comes to you in the future. It means that the present moment is the result of Karma or previous actions. Goodness or badness is open to human interpretation.

No, not everything is open for interpretation. And karma is not always a result of your actions but of others in the world. The genuis a couple posts up said you need to just change yourself. There are plenty of people who never want to 'change' and through freewill thier actions affect others not just themselves. Just because you don't kill or rape doesn't mean you will not become a victim of it or of a stray bullet or the target of scapegoating. Actually, it happens far too often. You see it in war, you see it everyday.


Accept reality and make life a better world, by first changing yourself.

You do not realize how deceptively correct this sounds but is so weak. The problem is people who DON'T change thier dangerous or seriously harmful ways. That doesn't always improve the world just because you yourself don't steal, rape or kill. Otherwise, we wouldn't have LAWS that ENFORCE everyone to! We would just leave it up to their whim when it affects others! Your philosophy is too passive, it subsequently would let evil gain power by too much accomodation. Also, most societys's structure is set up similar to a pyramid scheme appealing to the unfair and greedy side. You would have fit in very well in imperial japan and the nazi regime. Idiot.

I´m talking about compassionately accepting other people behaviour, because you aren´t responsible for them, only for you.

I understand that. I am shifting focus to what happens IN ONESELF if you follow your ideas.

If someone attacks me in the street and I angrily shove them back, this does not stop me from later having compassion for them. But assuming that there is somethign wrong with my anger is a form of self-hate. Angry reactions are a part of our internal life. I think your beliefs, while focussing on things external to us, sounds loving, but it actually means that we should judge our emotional reactions as not living up to some ideal. The acceptance is outward. If I can discriminate between positive and negative when I look inward at myself, why can't I discriminate - via my emotional reactions - to what is happening outside myself.

As a general rule suggesting that people should be compassionate and not react with anger is a lack of self-compassion.

I understand that. I am shifting focus to what happens IN ONESELF if you follow your ideas.

If someone attacks me in the street and I angrily shove them back, this does not stop me from later having compassion for them. But assuming that there is somethign wrong with my anger is a form of self-hate. Angry reactions are a part of our internal life. I think your beliefs, while focussing on things external to us, sounds loving, but it actually means that we should judge our emotional reactions as not living up to some ideal. The acceptance is outward. If I can discriminate between positive and negative when I look inward at myself, why can't I discriminate - via my emotional reactions - to what is happening outside myself.

As a general rule suggesting that people should be compassionate and not react with anger is a lack of self-compassion.

You are misinterpreting me a little bit, although you are onto something here. I never said you should repress your anger, that is the worst thing you could do, because you will manifest that energy anyhow, in a different form, maybe a disease or something (very common).
What I’m saying is that when we are angry, instead of directing that energy towards a given person, animal or thing, we should stop right there, and understand why we are getting the feeling of anger from inside us.
Because that is where the anger really comes from, inside us. So if you feel anger, it is your body that is manifesting energy in that form; not someone else who is giving you that feeling, it is yourself who are creating that feeling for biological or cultural reasons. How to understand it? Instead of directing the energy thinking about the person, thing, situation that lead us to anger, direct your attention to the reaction that anger is having in your own body.
Feel the heart beat strengthen, feel the blood flowing strongly towards your arms and hands, keep your mind focused on your internal reaction; because it is really all that matters to you. We are in control of our body, nobody else is, just each of us is responsible for the feelings inside us.

This doesnīt mean you canīt react violently if the situation calls for it. But if you understand your anger, to react violently does not necesarily means to be angry... By being angry, you are only hurting yourself, nobody else.

you´re funny peta9