http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/332/7544/745-a

When I read this I exploded with excitement. At present I have been diagnosis with major depression but I always felt my depression was caused by my procrastinate, procrastination so intense the often I can't even do things I would like to do, lets say I want to play a computer game, but I can't even work up the will get up and to do that! Medication has help my depression but has done nothing for my motivation, I would like to be able to do experiment and do reports, I enjoy writing reports, but I can't scavenge to will to even get out of bed sometimes.

Unfortunately the article cited is April fools joke, I feel as if the whole psychological community is laughing at me "no your just lazy". I remember reading a report about how some students are taking medication to get an edge in performance and many feel this is cheating, fuck that, I would take amphetamines if it meant I could work like a normal person! Why do we need to be diagnosed with a condition to get help? If you can't achieve a goal and the reason is psychological you should have the right to do what ever you need to your self to achieve your goals!

I would take amphetamines if it meant I could work like a normal person! Why do we need to be diagnosed with a condition to get help? If you can't achieve a goal and the reason is psychological you should have the right to do what ever you need to your self to achieve your goals!

you donīt expect the goverment to allow all kinds of drugs just because you are lazy, do you ? :o

you donīt expect the goverment to allow all kinds of drugs just because you are lazy, do you ? :o

No because lazy people are just lazy, just like schizos are just schizos, oh wait we diagnose that later one as a disorder, send out the drugs!

Why do we need to be diagnosed with a condition to get help? If you can't achieve a goal and the reason is psychological you should have the right to do what ever you need to your self to achieve your goals!

But, yet:


fuck that, I would take amphetamines if it meant I could work like a normal person!

You don't see the problem with a world where amphetamines were available on request?

I get MDD on Friday mornings when I don't have class or work.

A friend of mine has a problem with her thyroid that causes loss of energy and motivation, maybe it's something like that?

At present I have been diagnosis with major depression but I always felt my depression was caused by my procrastinate, procrastination so intense the often I can't even do things I would like to do, lets say I want to play a computer game, but I can't even work up the will get up and to do that! Medication has help my depression but has done nothing for my motivation, I would like to be able to do experiment and do reports, I enjoy writing reports, but I can't scavenge to will to even get out of bed sometimes.

I will admit that I struggle with understanding this---in my life, if I'm not motivated to do something, it's jest because I'm being lazy. I've been depressed before, but nothing that couldn't be cured by a long walk or by playing with my dog.

But obviously there is something that goes on inside the brain of a depressed person. I trust doctors to be right about this, at least.

The point is, people who don't experience depression can't understand it---it's like racism, in a sense. I'm not black, so how can I presume to know what it's like to be discriminated against?

Conversely, so much about depression is just not known. There's no objective test, and these things are always subjective. So how can you really know when someone is depressed vs. when they are just lazy?

If you are lazy to the point that you don't even do things you like doing, there is something wrong.

EF, do you have any physical symptoms that might suggest a cause? Head rush from standing, physical weakness, feeling too cold?

Tired, very tired

Can you force yourself to get out of the house and exercise? I think that would be the first and best start. Find an activity you like, and convince yourself that its fanatical devotion is reasonable. It's doable, believe it or not. The mind likes to believe things by heart; let it.

But by all means, don't start beating yourself up. People do get depressed, or a plethora of other bloody things. It's not heinous, but it's not good for you. That's the bottom line.

im extremely lazy but i constantly tell myself to get up and do something. i dont know, i always try to think of others achievements as a way to get myself to get up.

are you passionate about anything? have you ever thought of maybe developping a hobby. you obviously were not lazy enough to write this post, or even get diagnosed for your depression... maybe thats an area that interests you, why not get into psychology? considering its a subject you can directly relate to, it wouldnt be a bad idea.

i dont know, this is just my 2 cents. its what i do whenever im depressed or lazy, but then again, ive never been diagnosed for it so i dno how bad it can get.

OMG ElectricFetus, thank you so much for posting this! No I know I am not alone! :worship:

I was also very exited about this article. I thought my condition finally had a name (and possibly a treatment).

My condition is so bad that I am on a disability benefit, but without a clear diagnosis. I have been tested for depression, ADD, Narcolepsia, etc, and I got a thousand different kinds of medication, but nothing worked for my motivation.

When I found out this article was an april fools joke, I was so disappointed. :bawl:

If you ever find out more about 'our' condition, please let me know!

Ok, it is 4:47 PM here now, and I am finally going to take that shower I should have taken yesterday. :D

(cough) this is going to sound strange, really strange, and also illegal, but pot helps me focus, I can focus on a task free from anxiety and feel good about what I'm doing, I finished my thesis on pot, seriously. Just a little though, too much pot and I just trip out, I eat it in very small amounts as if it was a pill.

Thanks for the tip. It is not illegal here, so it is no problem for me to get it. ;)
Maybe I can even get it on prescription.

If that works, I would think that the condition has something to do with an over-active brain, like in ADD.

Do you eat pure pot? I never heard of that. And what kind do you use? Bedrocan, Bedrobinol, Bedinol or Bedica?

You can also send me a private message if that is more comfortable to you. :D

Thanks again!

My psychologist and I think it is anxiety, hence the pot takes away the worries and allow me to focus on getting it. Yes you can eat pot like any other herb, ever heard of space brownies? Anyways eating it is way more effective than smoking it and does not damage your lungs, only problem is it takes an 1-2 hours to kick in. And again I found therapeutic dosages to be very small like half a roach worth of high powered stuff, anything more and you will start tripping.

Ah, space cake. :)
I think I am going to use a vaporizer, because it is easier to take the right dose and it works faster. Tea might work as well.

But before I will go see my doctor to ask for it, I would like to know for sure that our conditions are similar.

I have been thinking about the anxiety part. That makes sense to me as I am a real night owl. I have trouble starting the day (I sleep till 1 PM), and only come to life when the day is over (after 9 PM). That sounds like 'fear' for the day. At night, the pressure of the day falls off me, and I feel much better.

But what about postponing a shower? Why can't I just do the dishes? What am I afraid of in that kind of situations?

Like you described earlier, I just feel tired. My head is heavy and I can not keep my eyes open. It feels like I am wading through mud.

I am very curious to know if you had the same experiences.

@ Lilah...I have a milder case of the same problem...

My solution? work night shift!
And caffeine...Caffiene is my very special friend.

Since pot's legal where you are, that's cool, try it?

I take L-theanine myself.
For me it is calming and focusing without making me sleepy.
It's known to help with mild anxiety...and when combined with caffeine, to improve focus somewhat in ADD people.
Not as strong as pharmaceuticals, but helpful.

In my case, my "laziness" is merely selective motivation.

When it comes to things I care about (creative writing, shooting hoops, making movies) my motivation is unparallelled

however when it comes to rigorous, relatively meaningless schoolwork, I am the epitome of lazy. In fact, in 4 years of college, I don't think I have ever written a paper more than 24 hours prior to the deadline.

Things I want to do = completely absorbed, 100% effort
Things I must do = lazy, disinterested, suicidal

...and such is life... (and for what it's worth, it is 4am in the morning, I am "working" on a paper that is due at noon--- yet I am far more focused on these forums than on the paper, which either reflects poorly on me or positively on you interesting folk!)

ok, now back to drone-like regurgitation!!!

Would we all starve and freeze if we had to grow our own food, make our own clothes, and construct our own shelter?