Is the Mind of a Killer Any Different?

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  1. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I've been watching tv shows like City Cofidential and Cold Case Files and have noticed that most serial killers have screwed up childhoods, just as I expected. However, once in a while, there's a serial killer that seems juts like everyone else and without a screwed up childhood. Today I watched one called "the happy face killer". The guy had a normal life and everything. But what puzzles me is that apparently he didn't have a screwed up childhood.

    I'm just puzzled by it. Altough most killers have psychological environmental reasons to be killers, there's sometimes the odd one. Has anyone heard of any experiement that tries to find out why?

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    Has anyone ever did a CATscan on some of them to try to find out any differences in their brains?
     
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  3. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    if you look at crime statistics you will see that violence is related to testosterone
     
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  5. illuminatingtherapy Initiate of The Universe Registered Senior Member

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    Serial killers often get could in the habit, don't they? When crossing the 'killing-line', doing it again is easier than the last time. All of a sudden it's natural thing for a serial killer to do.
     
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  7. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Really? Ok. Let's see your evidence.
     
  8. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting... so why would they cross the line the first time?
     
  9. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    lets see your evidence as to why you doubt my statement.
     
  10. Ibanez Somebody Set Us Up The Bomb Registered Senior Member

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    The only 'evidence' he needs to doubt your statement is your lack of evidence.
     
  11. Retard Banned Banned

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    Wanna see a killer - albeit of the lobotomized, castrated kind - look in the mirror.
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    Men outnumber women in all major crime categories. Between 85 and 95 per cent of offenders found guilty of burglary, robbery, drug offences, criminal damage or violence against the person are male.

    http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=442

    any questions?
     
  13. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    You have no evidence linking that data to testosterone. You are assuming it is testosterone because of the gender difference. But you haven't proved your hypothesis. There must be experiements to prove a hypothesis and then it needs to be analized with statistical tests...
     
  14. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    No, the killers are not different.
     
  15. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I suppose their minds might not be different. But then, what would distinguish them as killers?
     
  16. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    Higher testosterone levels are related to criminal violence and aggressive dominance among women in prison, says a Georgia State University study released Sept. 23.
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1997/09/970927110900.htm

    Anything that increases the reactivity of the midbrain or brainstem (testosterone), or decreases the reactivity of the cortical areas (neglect) will increase an individual's aggression, impulsiveness and "capacity to display violence" (Perry).
    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3940/is_200308/ai_n9242408#continue

    Analysis of variance showed testosterone significantly related to behavior in prison: the highest concentrations of the hormone were found in the aggressive dominant group.
    http://echo.forensicpanel.com/1997/11/1/testosteroneviolent.html

    any more questions?
     
  17. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    I wish you would learn how to spell the word "analyzed." It's "analyzed" or "analysed" in English, not analized. Do you know what you sound like when you use your incorrect spelling of the word around people who know how to spell it? This is the second time I have noticed you spell it exactly that way. Just for fun, do a google search for your version: analize or analized. If you don't trust yourself to remember the correct spelling, try using "dissected" or "broken down" instead.
     
  18. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    No more questions. I think that answers my question.

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    Is it just testosterone or anything that "increases the reactivity of the midbrain or brainstem"? What about adrenaline, would that be one? Also, what would cause an imbalance of testosterone? I know I have testosterone, but I don't go around killing people. So whwhy there is a difference?

    Thanks

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  19. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Ehhhh... it was a typo....

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    Chill out, man...

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    As far as I know, this is the best site on the web for reviewing a compilation of the research related to the biological determinants of criminal behaviour:
    http://www.crime-times.org
     
  21. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    "Some people fear that biological causes must be treated with radical medical interventions such as heavy psychopharmacological agents or even psycho-surgery. But research shows that measures as simple as better prenatal care, better nutrition, reduced exposure to environmental toxins, or remediation of neurochemical imbalances can be highly effective in correcting problems in behavior.

    Unless the physiological functioning of the brain is included in the quest to alleviate crime and violence, we suggest that any effort will be a failure."

    Thank you for that website. It's really good.

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  22. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    I can't speak about killers, but I can tell you that from experience the criminal mind is NOT different, they separate what they do from themselves, a 'job'.

    Lots of non criminals do this same thing, they test on animals, slaughter animals, abort babies, turn the switch on the elctrocution chair, kill in wars (they are called soldiers) there really is No doiffrence, just one form of 'cruelty' is legal, one is NOT.

    The criminal lives outside the law hence isn't so picky picky about job descriptions
     
  23. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    quite a while back...i started a thread about serial killers and inquired of te oters if they knew something i had head----ie., that some serial killers had had some kind of head injury....but threead died unanswerewd...well?

    as for te 'happy family'. well on the URFACE it may seem so, BUT....
    for example Jeffey Duahmer. saw a docu about him andit had family video of him and his dad saying he'd been treated fine

    thi kid got into the nast habi of--if i reember, killing animals, and/or finding them and being fascinated with feel their dead bodies, te bones, how tey 'worked' etc.and we know what he graduated to

    also. 'happy' dont mean much. some kids seem to have 'happy' but it can be a curse. all false. no real relationship and so on

    some kids have semed all 'bright' and te apple of tier 'lovin parents' eye, and gone to Oxford, all 'happy' and then killed themselves!
     

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