The US war-starting hoax

Really? I'm "fed of" you never satisfactorily answering a point, or finishing an argument with a win instead of a whine.

Geoff

 

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You Brian Foley, the fact that you do not use logic in your assertion, and ignore historical fact, that you forget that any country will not open all it operational plans to outside powers in hope of having a ace in the hole to do a first strike option or to gain suprise and tactical advantage in any conflict that may arise, the principal that governs moslem thinking is Inshalla? Gods will or plan, so they are willing to do things that we would consider insaine because its Allha's will or plan. They have absolute faith that can do or commit any hair brained idea that come into their mind and it is the will of Allah and he will provide, now do you want any government that is run by men with this additude to posses nuclear weapons or the ability to make them, you claim to know somethig about these people, so then you should know about the principal of Inshallah? Or is Funkstar correct and you are only repeating your fathers predjustice and have no idea what you are talking about.

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Hey, WWII is too far back; people won't remember any references to that. You're better off mentioning Baghdad Bob.

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No, there are absolutely no tanks in this city. The infidels are being eaten up by giant desert spiders that Allah has sent upon them!

Yeah, I know. What's up with us keeping our mini-nukes secret?

What, you mean people like born-again GWB and his adminstration and their orders from God?

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I ask for this :

And I get this !

Yep and once again Arsehead here dips out of backing himself up .

Could you lead me to where and when an Arab goverment acting on "Inshalla" commited an act that we in the West considered insane ?
Do you think the creation of Israel which is the religious realisation of Zionism that God gave them this land and to put their ideology into practice the Jews displaced an entire nation of human beings and began attacking and bombing its neighbours . And the fact that this nation of zealots , who adhere to there version of "Inshalla" which is Zionism , actually have numerous atomic weapons . Does that bother you ?

ROFL oh yeah Bob he is the intelligent one , he worked for CNN .

 

And funnily enough, you commented on it on the original thread. Guess you could read it then, eh? But not now. Oh, no. Can't read it now. Is this the new tactic - wait until the links have expired, then bring up the issues again? You tried a parallel of this I note regarding the Jewish race issue. It didn't work.

Now could you admit that you could read it all along, or fess up and admit that you're a liar, Foley? I'm not asking for anything unreasonable here.

Geoff

 

Show me where on that thread I answered this link please ? Plaese I would like you to do this .

 

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=51540&page=7&pp=20

Here's the link I cited for the posting you attacked (and poorly, I might add):

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201...ea/iran_nuclear

Here's the link you seem to think you never responded to:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201...ea/iran_nuclear

My...they look awfully similar, don't they? Cut off a little, but clearly the same link.

And here's what you said about the very same link on this thread:

But of course, you'd responded to it earlier. So you admitted that it did exist. Now of course you say it doesn't.

So. You just lost. Debate, and credibility both.

My suggestion is that you pretend you don't remember answering the link. Who knows? It might fly. Your other option is to scream about how it's not the same link. My suspicion is you'll try that. I wouldn't, if I were you. There's not too many links that run "http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201...ea/iran_nuclear" simultaneously. Kinda confusing for the webmaster, y'know?

Or you could actually be honest.

Geoff

 

You Lying Fuck !!!

Thats my link ! You have actually taken my link quoted it and inserted your name in it ! And are trying to fob it off as yours !

Here is my original post infrom that thread .

The URL to my link is :
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1565270

And the URL to Geoffs link is :
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201...ea/iran_nuclear

Do you see the difference my link is an ABC newstory and Geoffs is a yahoo newstory , you fucking Lying sack of shit !

 

Can you be any denser? All right, I had the first line mixed up. Unfortunately your comments all over the entire page thread indicate that you checked the link:

Check the bolded parts: which story? I didn't present the one you cited. I listed my OWN link. "The story" - meaning, the one I posted. I was apparently "very selective in what I chose to present". And how would you even be able to opine that, unless you read it.

Ergo, you read the thread I posted. Moreover, your responses all over that page prove you went there and read the links. And now you're lying about it. Unbelievable.

Sad. You have to accuse other people of lying to back out of a response that you already gave. Is this like where you call Jewish people a race so you can accuse them of racism? This is childish beyond any belief.

Don't call me a liar when you're the one doing it.

You commented on MY link: "selective" and "the story" ring a bell?? And now you're - again - lying about having read the article I posted so that you can pretend it was a fake.

Geoff

 

Apparently the tin foil is interfering with your computer, because your post consists of nothing but gibberish. You should probably get that fixed.

 

IAEA finds no evidence of Iranian nuclear-weapons plan

March 25, 2006
CASMII

The real and serious breaches of the NPT are found elsewhere:

By imposing trade sanctions against Iran and by preventing Iran from collaborating with nuclear states, the US government has been in breach of part 2 of Article IV of the NPT which gives all non-nuclear countries "the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy".

The US government and the European nuclear states are in breach of the NPT by supporting the nuclear weapons program of Israel which is not a signatory to the NPT.

The US government is in breach of the NPT by collaborating on nuclear technology with India, which still is not a signatory to the NPT.

All five permanent member states of the UN Security Council are in breach of Article VI of the NPT which requires them to take effective measures for nuclear disarmament.


After Iraq, US Tries to Dupe the World Community again
On March 2, an Associated Press report made it clear that the IAEA's multi-year investigation has not shown "any diversion of nuclear material to nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices." This verdict sharply contradicts the February 4th resolution of the Board of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which reports Iran to the UN Security Council, and strongly challenges the US deceptive propaganda war on Iran.

We should recall that Libya and Pakistan were both in breach of their international obligations but were left alone because of their friendly relationship with the US. Additionally Brazil and South Korea were in far worse positions than Iran ever has been regarding their experimentation with enriched uranium material, but neither the US nor the IAEA pursued their case for possible reporting to the Security Council. These examples clearly suggest that IAEA safeguards are enforced selectively without any logical rationale, except for the fact that if the country is not a client state of the US, the threshold for referral to the Security Council is much lower

The verdict of the IAEA resolution, that there is a lack of confidence that Iran's program is just for peaceful purposes, is not legally tenable. It is also blatantly hypocritical as item (e.) of the resolution specifically states that Iran is a special case of verification. This clause has been added to assure other member states of the IAEA Board that they will not be targeted next.

 

Umm..."Libya and Pakistan were both in breach of their international obligations but were left alone because of their friendly relationship with the US"

Libya. Libya? Are you serious? And Pakistan slipped under the radar, simply switching to weapons production on the sly. You don't seem to want the Yanks to be the world's policemen, and yet you insist that they do so. And I also note that none of the aforementioned presumed offenders ever threatened to obliterate Israel within record of their having sought nuclear technology, or any other nation. So are there mitigating factors? Sure are. You have to not be ruled by a pot of theocratic slapheads. That would certainly help.

"the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy"

And it especially allows non-nuclear countries trying to become nuclear countries the right to engage in unrestricted and undocumented trade and usage of nuclear materials and information.

Oh. It doesn't say that?

Does it say: "in particular, fascist nations are encouraged to breach NPT rules at their wherewithal"? No?

Well does it at least say that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth?

...well, then, I just give up. IAEA infidels. Do they have any embassies?

Geoff

 

Your fucking insane .

Apparently I smell a chicken ....cluck cluck cluck .

Thanks dkb that now concludes this argument the onus of proof is now on these 2 wet patches Geoff and fuckstar to prove that Iran is aquiring an Atomic bomb .

 

why all the hoopla about iran when american intelligence can't infiltrate south africa nuclear program nor does it care to do so

do i smell something or is it just me

 

What do you mean Apartheid South Africa and Zionist Israel co-operated on ther Atomic Weapons programmes . So it stands to reason the US would of known about it , as the US financed these 2 anti-human monstrosities . Kinda of fitting 2 racist repressive societies working together to keep down the untermensch .

 

Already done my bit. The IAEA is investigating; they have reason to.

But that's fine - accuse me of whatever you like, Foley. It changes nothing about your lying. Unbelievable, even for you.

I agree that the argument is concluded, and not in your favour.

Geoff

 

American and European intelligence agencies, and the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.), agree that Iran is intent on developing the capability to produce nuclear weapons.

“Everyone is on the same page about the Iranian bomb, but the United States wants regime change,” a European diplomatic adviser told me.
Seymour Hersh

Although there is no smoking gun, no hard evidence of Iran's nuclear weapons program, no one disagrees that they are seeking it, and they recently admitting they can now enrich uranium. Since both the Iranian and US leadership are religious fanatics, I would be worried.

The United States has already invaded Iran. Not with ground troops, it is true, but with special forces.

 

I will just reacp you saiud the IAEA agreed with you

Fact is the IAEA have actually come to our side :

Your Fucked .

You didnt mention Israel Why ?

 

Less fanatic.

 

LMAO

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Sad.

Geoff