What is death?

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  1. Xelios We're setting you adrift idiot Registered Senior Member

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    This reminds me of that one SNL Celebrity Jeopardy episode where Sean Connery is asked to pick a catagory, he see's "Therapists" on the board so he says "It looks like this is my lucky day, I'll take The Rapists for 200" so Trebeck says "That's Therapists..... not The Rapists.."

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  3. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Tyler,

    Are you a rapist to know what one might feel or not...?

    Love,
    Nelson
     
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  5. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    I've studied psychiatric profiles hugely.

    The first thing I got largely into was psychiatry. When I realized psychiatry was too much of a math for me, I moved on to political theory. Than philosophy.


    I used Bernardo before, and I will again. In his profile psychiatrists believe he feels no remorse for his actions.
     
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  7. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Well Nelson, you are the one who feels more sympathy for them than for thier victims.

    Seriously dear, Tyler reads. He studies psychiatry. He has probably heard of 'anti-social personality disorder' and 'sociopathy'.
     
  8. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    And I studied Modern Psychology for years...

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  9. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "Sociopathy is chiefly characterized by something wrong with the person's conscience. They either don't have one, it's full of holes like Swiss cheese, or they are somehow able to completely neutralize or negate any sense of conscience or future time perspective. Sociopaths only care about fulfilling their own needs and desires - selfishness and egocentricity to the extreme. Everything and everybody else is mentally twisted around in their minds as objects to be used in fulfilling their own needs and desires. They often believe they are doing something good for society, or at least nothing that bad. The term "sociopath" is frequently used by psychologists and sociologists alike in referring to persons whose unsocialized character is due primarily to parental failures (usually fatherlessness) rather than inherent features of temperament"
    - http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/401/401lect16.htm

    Chronic Depression also fits the bill;
    "The group of symptoms which doctors and therapists use to diagnose
    depression ("depressive symptoms"), which includes the important
    proviso that the symptoms have manifested for more than a few weeks
    and that they are interfering with normal life, are the result of an
    alteration in brain chemistry. This alteration is similar to
    temporary, normal variations in brain chemistry which can be
    triggered by illness, stress, frustration, or grief, but it differs
    in that it is self-sustaining and does not resolve itself upon
    removal of such triggering events (if any such trigger can be found
    at all, which is not always the case.)

    Instead, the alteration continues, producing depressive symptoms and
    through those symptoms, enormous new stresses on the person:
    unhappiness, sleep disorders, lack of concentration, difficulty in
    doing one's job, inability to care for one's physical and emotional
    needs, strain on existing relationships with friends and family.
    These new stresses may be sufficient to act as triggers for
    continuing brain chemistry alteration, or they may simply prevent the
    resolution of the difficulties which may have triggered the initial
    alteration, or both."

    There's many more.

    And technically, there's no such thing as over thinking as every human is thinking every second of every day. There is such a thing as over pondering on a certain topic though.
     
  10. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Tyler,

    I see...
    You never tried to shut up your head, did you?
    Try it. Try to stay 5 seconds without thinking. Next time try 50 sconds. Then, 1 minute. Go, and build it up!

    Once you stop thinking, your right brain will enter in contact with your left brain and you will understand what I'm telling you here...

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  11. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    That's called meditation. And it was something we used daily in Kung-Fu. Did I mention I trained for 8 years? Yeah, so I have a pretty good idea what meditation is about.

    And no, its not stoping thinking. It's about clearing your mind. It's a sleep-like trance. But it's not stoping thoughtl. Your mind still processes information.

    And how many people in Canada meditate? Out of 30 million? Maybe a million? So then those other 29 million by your description are constantly thinking and therefore will go insane.
     
  12. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Depend in your idea of thinking...
     
  13. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    What the hell are you talking about?
    Are you going to change the definition of thinking now?

    "To have or formulate in the mind"
     
  14. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Poor, poor masochistic* Tyler. I think he might.

    P.S: The right and left brains are already connected, by the corpus callosum.

    *Yeah, I'm using the word out of context. So hit me.

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  15. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    I'm not talking physically... I'm talking neurologically.
    For example, why women have enhanced intuition?
    Because the informations are more exchanged from one side of the brain to the other. Their corpus callosum are more active.

    That's what I'm talking here. For one to experience true meditation AND what I'm saying here, it's absolutly necessary that the two hemispheres of the brain are connected and easily interchanging information.

    Already answerwed Tyler...

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  16. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Neurology is physical, dear.

    Actually, it is thicker and the neurons are more dense.

    Unless you are a split-brain patient, the two hemispheres are already connected.
     
  17. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    I'm talking about the impulses...

    Yes...

    Again, I'm talking about exchange of impulses between the two hemispheres. When you read this message, your right hemisphere get the words and rationalize, while your left brain is more "worried" about meanings and sensations...

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  18. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Nelson:
    With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. The chemical and electrical signals (impulses) are physical.

    Yes, and the two are connected, and the two hemispheres do share some functions.
     
  19. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    I believe TS may be referring to the nature of thoughts and such as they occur in the different parts of the brain, rather than actual electrical impulses. Perhaps a problem of language.
     
  20. G0D G0D - Gee Zero Dee Registered Senior Member

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    Hey! you gone from "space monkey"

    to "single space monkey"

    and now you a "depressed space monkey"?
     
  21. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Now he's 'stupid space monkey'. Poor Adamski, love sucks.*

    Adamski, you could be right. Nelson, is that it?

    *Ha ha ha. You know what I meant.
     
  22. Poet~PriestOfNothing Registered Senior Member

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    DEATH:
    to die, to expire, to pass on, to perish, to peg out, to push up dasies, to push up posies, to become extinct, curtins, desceased, demised, departed and defunct, dead as a doornail, dead as a herring, dead as mutton, dead as nits , the last breath, paying a dept to nature, The Big Sleep, God's way of saying:Slow down, to check out, To shuffle off this mortal coil, To head for the happy hunting ground, To blink for an exceptionally long period of time, To find oneself without breath, To be The Incredible Decaying Man, Worm Buffet, Kick the bucket, By the farm, Take the cab, Cash in your chips, and if we bury you ass-up we'll have a place to park my bike.
     
  23. Cactus Jack Death Knight of Northrend Registered Senior Member

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    That was awesome - Hahahahahaha

    P.S. - Too much 'Dead Parrot Sketch' by Monty Python eh?
     

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