British moslems say terrorism justified!!!

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  1. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    What is the translation of the shahada?
     
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  3. Ghost_007 Registered Senior Member

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    I believe it is 'declaration of faith'

    samcdkey - I have been told that there were 124,000 Prophets sent to mankind in total.

    Out of these 313-315 were Messengers. I believe there is a hadith about this.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks.
     
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  7. Ghost_007 Registered Senior Member

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    No problem.

    Don't know if you're into the mystical aspects of Islam but it is said that the Prophet Mohammad had exactly 124,000 Companions.

    We are also told that on Earth there are always 124,000 Awliyah-Allah (Islamic term for ‘Saints’ or ‘Friends of God’) at one time. They each inherit from a Prophet, when they pass away it moves on to someone else.
     
  8. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    No, what I mean is what do you say to declare yourself a muslim
     
  9. slotty Colostomy-its not my bag Registered Senior Member

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    Has'nt this thread gone a bit off topic?

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    Everybody arguing about who invented god around the world, when will the human race grow up and get on with making the world a better place for all?

    From what i see and hear, muslims DO think its justified to commit terroist acts. I live in east london were there are thousands of muslims trying to turn the city into a fundamentalist gehtto. I have friends who are muslim but don't practice at all because they believe its a crock of shit religion hi-jacked by nutters. Britain has become too liberal with these dickheads. The UK is 96% white christian, and we have about 1.5 m muslims ( about, i think) they have an agender here. A load of them wrote a letter to Blair saying its our policys that steer young men to blow themselves up and that we should alter them. the government here basically answered them by saying their talking crap, nothing will alter british policy unless the voters want it. (yeh-right). Why do young muslims say that their muslim's first and british second? they are fortunate enough to live in a rich country but spend most of their time hating the place and reading the koran and ranting about bush and blair. silly twats.
     
  10. Indymaestro Resu Deretsiger Registered Senior Member

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    Nothing to see here slotty, these aren't the people to blame that you're looking for....move along, move along.
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    They obviously need an education in civility, tolerance and most importantly in the religion they presume to follow.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    There is no god but God, and Muhammed is his messenger.

    "La ilaha il Allah, Muhammad-ur-Rasool-Allah"
     
  13. Indymaestro Resu Deretsiger Registered Senior Member

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    Don't you know their only allegience is to the global Ummah and to one another? Maybe you should start doing your own independent research on Islam and not take what the Mainstream Media has to say on the matter ("Islam is peaceful!", "Islam means the religion of Peace", etc).

    For one thing, Islam does not mean "peace" as we so often hear from everybody - Islam means 'Submission'.

    Two very different things. I personally think just this distinction alone tells one a lot about Islam and its adherrants.
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    uh uh

    Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience.

    We greet by saying:

    As-salaam aleikum (Peace be with you)
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Actually I'm familar primarily with the Quran, history and philosophy of Islam.

    I've never really looked at the metaphysical aspects. Even my knowledge of Hadith is not much.
     
  16. Indymaestro Resu Deretsiger Registered Senior Member

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    The Arabic term 'islam means "submission" and itself comes from the term 'aslama, which means "to surrender, resign oneself." In Islam, the fundamental duty of each member is to submit to Allah (Arabic for "the God") and whatever Allah wants of them. A person who follows Islam is called a Muslim, and this means "one who surrenders to God."

    http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/blfaq_islam_islam.htm

    The Arabic word "Islam" means "submission," and it derives from a word meaning "peace." In a religious context it means complete submission to the will of God. "Allah" is the Arabic name for God, which is used by Arab Muslims and Christians alike.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/islam.htm

    And from a "non-biased" source:

    The word "Islam" is Arabic word which means "submission to the will of Allah". This word comes from the same root as the Arabic word "Salam", which means "peace".

    http://www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/spot_full_story.asp?service_id=650

    So sam, how is it that you, as a muslim, do not even understand or know the true meaning of your own religion?

    And why are you muslims so touchy about the exact meaning of 'Islam'? You try to masquerade around knowingly falsifying the true meaning of the word [and therefore by extension religion], yet not revealing what it really means.

    So in the end Islam = Submission,

    Always remember, knowing is half the battle!
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Actually I know Arabic.

    The regular intransitive stem salima, "to be safe", "to be secure", etc.

    In its second verbal form (sallama) it means "to make some one safe" and "to free", "to make secure", etc.

    In its third form (salama), it signifies "to make peace", or "to become at peace", i.e. to be reconciled".

    In its fourth form (aslama), it acquires the sense of "to resign", "to submit oneself" or "to surrender".

    A "Muslim" however means one who submits to the will of Allah, by definition.
     
  18. Indymaestro Resu Deretsiger Registered Senior Member

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    Why can't you say it sam?

    Why can't you just say that "Islam means Submission"?
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The "word" Islam means peace, purity, submission and obedience.

    When we talk about "following Islam" we mean submission to the will of God as indicated by His Word (Quran) and His Messenger.
     
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  20. Indymaestro Resu Deretsiger Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not presuming to teach you your religion, i'm just asking that you don't deceive people into believing that Islam means "peace".
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Islam is the religion of peace. Don't look at the ~15% in the ME or ~2% who are fundamentalists. Look at the ~80% who are mostly invisible.

    One in every five (almost every four) persons in the world is a Muslim.
     
  22. Vega Banned Banned

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    ever heard of the "satanic verses"???
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yup ever heard of the Holocaust?
     

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