Does Democracy Work?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by lixluke, Sep 6, 2006.

  1. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Either way, you do not seem to believe that there is anything wrong with stratification.
    The people that do the most labor should be those that get paid the most. Either way, it's all the same slave mentality.
    It is therefore, easy to take advantage of such slaves because they do not mind doing all the work while the rich do nothing, and take all the money.

    Needless to say, what can one do about it when the economy is controlled by ther rich using their police force to silence even protestors. Jesus forbid they go on strike because if they do not go back to laboring, they will be sent to prison. Slavery is not as bad as it used to be, but it still exists in form. Especially when the slaves do not question their masters. They do not question how certain people can go about doing nothing productive, and continue getting richer.
     
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  3. Nanonetics Registered Senior Member

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    Democracy seems to quickly narrow toward a class of parasitic, wealthy, materialist elite who would rather destroy civilization than cede power. It is a terrible idea to allow just anyone who comes along to rule us. Leaders, like doctors, lawyers and professors need to have trusted qualifications in order to serve in their role. Democracy does not allow for this.
     
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  5. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    The real question would be this: What would you have done to stop someone from having a 40 bedroom mansion? Would you make it illegal and have the law enforced at gunpoint? Where would the cutoff point be?
     
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  7. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Which exactly central banks and international orgs use Bis?
    How can you qualitfy toopen an account?
     
  8. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Democracy works well for majorities..who are not usually interested in anything other than mediocrity.

    Democracies are mediocracies.
     
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  10. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    And that is their greatest strength. They may do stupid things day in and day out.... but rarely catastrophically stupid. The smaller the group of rulers, be it in the form of a Roman-type republic or a tyranny, the more you are required to trust that they are all virtueous, brilliant minds eternally working in the favor of the people as a whole. That would be fine if there existed a way to actually sift through the population to find such people and to make sure they do not fall to power's corruptive nature.
     
  11. Roman Banned Banned

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    America is not a democracy, nor does democracy imply a capitalist system of government.
     
  12. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    True. But a functioning democracy at least suggests the lack of a true command-style economy. Socialism is one thing... the government owning all or most of the points of industry and trade is another.

    And America is a democratic republic. We aren't a true athenian style democracy because such things have been proven not to function for systems larger than moderately sized citystates. But neither are we a true republic where senators appoint senators and the public has zero control. Note that whenever anyone besides an ancient history buff talks about democracy, they are probably talking about something similar to the American style.
     
  13. Roman Banned Banned

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    American style democracy isn't that democratic. What is it, 100,000 citizens/congressman these days? Something like that. We don't elect our president directly. Winning elections is more about campaign contributions and promising the contributors their money wasn't wasted. The feds have pretty much taken all control away from the states through the interstate commerce clause and school/road funding.

    I'd say America is far closer to a republic, especially when you examine the level of corruption and infidelity politicians have for their constituents.
     
  14. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    I don't exactly agree with a couple points there but, through the virtue of all too many years of experience on this forum, I know not to push. We are at a point that is just threatening to spill over into a pointless and heated arguement which will only end when an admin breaks in waving a large stick. I am wise enough to bow out.
     
  15. Destroyer Banned Banned

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    I wouldnt stop someone having a 40 bedroom mansion. They can have it if they think it makes it happy. I am saying you don't need one to be happy.
     
  16. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    i cant read this.im sorry.
     
  17. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    i do not agree.poeple arent suppose to be contributing to society- a human being is a purpose by hes on right.he has the right to do what he wants-as long as he doesnt brake the law off course.

    rich poeple dont take nothing-they earn it.if i invent something and make a pile of money because of that ,then i am a parasite?

    there are many problems with the world.the fact that you can use money and power to control the goverment is one of them.
     
  18. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    What if Tim Paterson invented DOS and Bill Gates took it and became the richest man on earth? Who is the parasite here?
     
  19. Destroyer Banned Banned

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    What does this mean. And it really is difficult to read your posts predator_190.
     
  20. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    he salled it to bill gates didnt he?that was hes decision.
     
  21. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    it means that a person can choose hes purpose by himself.
    he is not obligated to fill other people purposes.
     
  22. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Does that detract anything from the observation that Bill Gates displayed parasitic behaviour?
     
  23. Destroyer Banned Banned

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    So a person can choose to be a parasite. Well thats certainly true.
     

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