Richard Dawkins

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  1. imaplanck. Banned Banned

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    Really? where? quote me happy?
     
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  3. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Philosophers stone

    perhaps says more about molecular evolutionists than Sam

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    I think thatw as sam's point too - the question is why Lord Insane insisted on advocating two equivocal concepts simultaneously

    Evolution owes its credibility to the reductionists field of physics (molecules, electrons, etc) and the nature of consciousness (free will etc) owes its credibility to the philosophical part of psychology - they are not compatible because according to the reductionists paradigm there is no molecular evidence of free will



    Obviously they are in the same field when they operate out of the same paradigms - for instance to adopt a world view of molecular evolutionists (ie that everything is reducable to molecules, electrons etc) and then to tag the findings of human psychology on to that (free will etc) you would have to establish how human psychology (consciousness) is a molecular phenomena - in case you haven't noticed there seems to be a lack of evidence - for instance a molecular evolutionist would be hard pressed to give a molecular explanation why a mother crocadile puts her eggs in her jaws (that can break a buffalo's bone) and gently rolls them to enable them to hatch.
     
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  5. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    Light, will you buy a copy of The God Delusion?
     
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  7. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    Or will you watch episode 2 of Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"? I watched it last night and thought of you, LG .

    At least you should come away thinking that everything currently known about evolution, genes, dna or "molecular evolution" are not guesses.
     
  8. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Dawkins is an egocentric, emotive, pseudo-charlatan (for shit's sake work out what that means before you go complaining to me about the wrong thing) who purveys weakly substantiated hypotheses under the guise of solidly validated science, demanding acceptance in the same manner we would expect from a young Earth creationist. As I have written elsewhere, I should as soon vomit over him as buy him a hamburger. He is Jean Claude van Damme to Stephen Gould's Ian McKellan.

    Later, I may deal with his weak points.
     
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    Thank you, for taking your time to answer my question - and not attacking me personally

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  10. philosopher´s stone Banned Banned

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    I know you do not like the idea of evolution - still it works surprisingly well in real life .....

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  11. philosopher´s stone Banned Banned

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    It might be because Sam started talking about, that human action is ONLY
    defined by needs .........that is ofcourse false - a statement invented by Sam herself ....
    Lord pointed out that actions were also caused by emotions - as you can see in this link ( it is about the human , and if you go a little down you can find the headline : Motivation and emotion .....)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

    As you can see - Lord was spot on :" Motivation is the driving force of desire behind all actions . Motivation is based on emotion "!!
     
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    Well , but that is only part of the credibility of evolution - the neutral theory of molecular evolution is even considered by some to contradict the evolution by natural selection .....

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    I seem to have difficulties in finding a link to the reductionist paradigm -
    please provide me with a link - so that I can read all about it !!!

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  14. Bohemian Nightmare I am better than you Registered Senior Member

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    Dawkins is a legend.
     
  15. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Dawkins is a man.
     
  16. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Dawkins is a God.
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Have you seen this?

    http://www.amazon.com/Dawkins-God-G...=pd_bbs_2/002-4489870-7496860?ie=UTF8&s=books
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    If those were his strong points, I'm all ears. Am looking forward to your critique.
     
  19. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    No. I was unaware of it. This is from one of the reviews:
    Thus this book is not so much a critique of Darwinism as a critique of philosophy and ideology masquerading as science. Dawkins should know as well as anyone that science has limits, and questions of God's existence do not fall within those limits. Yet the works of Dawkins are permeated with emotive and irrational attacks on faith and religion. This misuse and abuse of science by Dawkins in this regard is a major theme of this volume.

    Thanks for drawing my attention to it. I'll add it to my reading list.
     
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  21. sniffy Banned Banned

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    Now why would religion suffer emotive and irrational attacks? It's just not fair is it?
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed!

    Will you buy the book?

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