star wars = the future?, does it have a deeper meaning?

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by ralph malph, Oct 14, 1999.

  1. ralph malph Registered Member

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    What was George thinking when he came up with the concept of Star Wars? Was he influenced by an event or 'force' (excuse the pun)?
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  3. andyr Registered Member

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    I think star-trek has more truths in it than starwars. It has been proved mathematically that it is possible to shrink spacetime in front of your "craft" and expand it behind you. Think about it!
     
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  5. ralph malph Registered Member

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    the millenium falcon has light speed also

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  7. dexter ROOT Registered Senior Member

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    the millenium falcon "hyperdrive" allwows it to drop out of normal space into an alternate dimention there fore alowing it to pull space twprds it as well as go twords the destination.
    but i do think that star wars might have a deeper meaning, cause geoprge lucas is a genius if he though all that stuff up, and everything up about everything else. but mabe he was influence by an abduction??? or mabe through his very own force he was contacted by his own jedi??? cause i beileve that god is the force basically, that its just a power sitting there out of a normal humans reach, but then some people, phycics have contacted or tappeed into that energy feild wich allows them limeted power, but i beileive that some people can tap all the way into it becomeing a sorta "jedi"

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  8. H-kon Registered Senior Member

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    I believe Babylon 5 would be more accurate when you look at what happened with Earth all the time. The assasination of President Clarke =JFK? The Centauri was the first contact ( which is where people think a race is) and so on..
     
  9. Deadwood Registered Senior Member

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    Star Wars is the most realistic of the lot out of Babylon 5 and star trek. I mean just look at the diversity of characters in it. Star trek just has five major races. star wars has heaps of different races.

    Also, I saw a documentary a few years ago about the CIA training people in stuff that resembled the force in star wars. Like the bending spoons with out touching them. I saw a guy on television do that when the olympics were on at Osaki.

    Also, when hypnotised the trained people would be given a certain latitude and longitude. The person would then be able to describe the area in real time and move in it. One time a secret military installation was found doing horrible things to chimpanzees which scarred that person for life. That military installation was then shut down.

    Well, perhaps George Lucas was in the CIA, hehe that would be funny.

    But I reckon that would be cool to do the spoon thing...
     
  10. Vanja Registered Senior Member

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    Definitely count me in on the spoon thing.
     
  11. dexter ROOT Registered Senior Member

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    mabe we were the aliens and a ship crashlanded and george was just a rencarnated sole telling the story of why they ran away or something, that ecplains "a long time ago in a galexie far far away."

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  12. oldie Registered Senior Member

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    He borrowed the "force" concept from E.E. Smiths Lensman series. No original thinking for Lucas on this one.
     
  13. dexter ROOT Registered Senior Member

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    whatever dude,
    that guy probobly copied george. no one can top george. evan if george did copy it, just the way he pute it and everything else was soooo cool.

    thats all i got

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  14. oldie Registered Senior Member

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    E. E. Smith wrote the Lensman series in the 1940's and 1950's. How can you even log on to SciFi Culture and not know who Doc Smith is?
     
  15. dexter ROOT Registered Senior Member

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    i logged on to this sight knowing about the star wars topic that was transferred over to this forum because i thought it was a interesting topic and i wanted to keep up with it. so you see i watch the sci fi channel all the time, but my fav sci fi show/movie is defiently star wars. and i have never herd of a doc except for in back to the furture which by the way is one of the best movies of all time. i do not care about any old sci fi movie's cause most of their concepts suck. but some are good.
    and if anyone from the sci fi channel by chance ever vistits this site, why did u take MST 3K off the air??? cause that was a cool kick ass show.

    that is all i have to say
     
  16. Vanja Registered Senior Member

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    I love Back to the Future! Bummer about Michael J. Fox.
     
  17. dexter ROOT Registered Senior Member

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    ya, it sux
    i wouldve never of thought in back to the future that it could happen, but i guess it did

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  18. cats Registered Senior Member

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    The number of aliens in Star Trek is the same old story and reason called the shooting budget. Only so much money and so little time to film it. Star Trek showed us the floppy disc used by Mr. Spock and other things now on the drawing board, so to speak.
     
  19. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, five Major races. However, based on what we've seen throughout the entire series, there have been more Star Trek races than Star Wars races. Star Wars was just filled with a bunch of 2 dimensional characters, what do you mean? And if your talking about ethnicity, anything can beat Star Wars there. (In the first SW movie, A New Hope, note that all of the rebel pilots are caucasian).

    This thread it from 1999? Ha.

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  20. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Lucas has said many times that he got the idea from the book "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_With_a_Thousand_Faces

    It basically examines the heroic myths of cultures around the world and picks out the common elements. Lucas took the list of common elements and plugged it into his story.

    Generally the "heroic story" involves a young man with an ordinary life who is pulled suddenly into an adventure in a fantastical/magical world. Usually because he is called to the adventure by a mystical person who gets him started and introduces him to the fantastical new world. He has some great task that he needs to accomplish, but before he can do that he has to overcome various obstacles with the help of friends who he meets along the way. During the adventure he acquires some sort of special power/ability/insight/knowledge that allows him to finally overcome his ultimate, most difficult obstacle and achieve victory. If he survives, he gets to either return to his previous ordinary life or continue in the interesting new world he has entered. If he goes home, he will use his new power/knowledge/whatever to help his fellow man. If he stays, he will use it to continue to have kick-ass adventures.

    If you think about it, that's more or less the plot of about half of the fantasy/scifi adventure movies and books out there, from The Hobbit to Star Wars.
     
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  21. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    I think Lucas lies about the influence of Hero With A Thousand Faces. You never heard jack shit about this "influence" until Campbell was on that PBS series and kept using Star Wars as an example. Shortly thereafter, George lucas "remembered" that it was an influence. he conveniently at the same timne himself forgot about the Lensmen, even though there are a lot more parallels with those books than with Campbell's.

    Campbell's book provided Lucas with a semi-intellectual veneer he could overlay on Star Wars to suggest that the story was Deep and Important rather than just a whole lot of fun. I think George seized on that and they retconned his influences accordingly.
     

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