Inter/Intra-Molecular Forces?

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by Kumar, Jan 6, 2007.

  1. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    Hello,
    Best Season's Greetings!

    Will you please tell me, how inter or intramolecular forces can be changed,still maintaining the molecular composition same?

    Whether products with differenent molecular forces will be different?

    Best wishes.
     
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  3. Farsight

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    Kumar: imagine a molecule as a 3D-arrangement of balls and springs with a stable configuration. You can push it into a different stable configuration.

    There's lots on google about all this, I couldn't find a good one for you, but this is a start:

    http://www.cem.msu.edu/~reusch/VirtualText/intro3.htm

    Try searching on "molecule" and "bond angle".
     
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  5. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks. How can we push it into different stable configurations?

    Please also tell about changes in intra molecular effecting molecular forces, say by making a long chan into smaller chain of same molecules?
     
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  7. Facial Valued Senior Member

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    Are you talking about macromolecule conformations, like proteins?

    Or cis- to trans- conversions for polymers or fatty acids?
     
  8. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    Any possible changes in inter or intramolecular forces causing changes in some properties of origional substance by application of vibrational energies, say grinding, shaking, rotating, vibrating etc.
     
  9. geodesic "The truth shall make ye fret" Registered Senior Member

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  10. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    While posting this topic, I thought it is quite simple to explain. Forget intra-molecular changes, just tell about stable changes in intermolecular forces on applying vibrational energies on a macromolecule, changing it from a longer chain to smaller chain, podering a crystal, grinding etc.
     
  11. Farsight

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    Geodesic: good one, perfect example.

    Kumar: follow the link above and see how the molecule changes shape:

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    That's how you see
     
  12. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    Farsight,

    Thanks. You cleared it. As such, will emitted or reflected spectrum from these two different structured molecules will show changes?

    Are such structural changes are possible in simple molecules or their long chain eg. water, alcohol, glucose etc.?
     
  13. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    contd......

    Two things are bit unclear in respect of molecule changes shape on photon's interactions:-

    Photon persistence in molecules can't be stable. As such will that molecule regain its origional shape on photon emission?

    If yes, how its memory/information can be stored in brain without stability in such molecular shape change?
     
  14. Farsight

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    I don't know much about this Kumar. I think you'll have to browse the internet to find out more.
     
  15. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    Shape changes in Molecules or macromolecule or in long chain of molecules is possible as indicative in last few posts. In this respect I have few questions:-

    1. Whether structural changes are possible in all type of molecules, macromolecules and simple molecules or in their long chain eg. water, alcohol, glucose etc.?

    2.Will emitted or reflected spectrum from these two different structured molecules will show changes expressing different properties?

    3.Photon persistence in molecules can't be stable. As such, will that molecule regain its origional shape on photon emission?

    4. If yes, how its memory/information can be stored without stability in such molecular shape change on energies intractions with brain?
     

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