I Challenge You All....

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Mosheh Thezion, Feb 4, 2007.

  1. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    PeoPle are different, they strive to be different. It is for evolutionary advantage of humans...that there are many different cultures and governments with different ideals.
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    freedom is not what most seek. Most seek understanding of life.
     
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  7. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    You should send me a hundred bucks just for putting me through reading that !
    (and not in %$#@&*! "FAITH notes" !)

    We can have faith in the value of these notes, because we have telescopes, and they show us the bounty of wealth which awaits us if we should just make the small investment to reach them.
    "Small investment" ???
    Can I have some of your whappy-zap pills ?

    Transferable FAITH notes, on the other hand, can be traded internationally, and can represent the endless real value of the whole mine-able earth, the moon, mars and the asteriod belt, with a total estimated value of what could be 15 trillion trillion dollars easy.
    15 trillion dollars sounds like a conservative estimate for the start-up cost for this "space-mining" operation...

    For those nations, who lack the faith in the world potential, its ok, they dont have to, its not mandatory, and the world federation can still offer them, and their people massive and great benefit, and will ask nothing in return whatsoever, because it is so nice.
    Remember when we tried sending food and trucks to distribute the food to Somalia ?
    The retards running the joint took as much food as they could, left the balance to rot on the docks, and used the trucks to truck their potential political opponents all over the countryside, to disperse them so they couldn't effectively counter the reign of the retards...
    This whole concept disregards some basic elements of human nature, IMHO.

    The world fed, could then offer, NON-transferable FAITH notes, to prop up that nations economy, specifically, with large scale programs to employ the masses in building up the infrastructure to make use of what ever resources a nation has, in as eco-friendly a manner as is humanly possible, and this is done, by the world fed, investing into nations with these non-transferable notes, which can only be paid back by that nations paper currency, and is meant to be paid back by the resulting wealth generated by the large scale labors of all the masses within any given nation.
    Something like this is already being done.
    The result as often as not is some wasteland surrounded by an imaginary line can't get its shit together sufficiently to get over some tribal/religious crapola or whanot and work together, and eventually some pretentious pile of crap like Bono ends up yapping on about how we should just forget about them paying us back and do it all over again.


    I just can't read any more of it...

    You're literally killing me.

    oh, wait...

    You all, as in the UN, could of course just ignore all this as well

    Amen !!!!!
    My plans exactly !

    A wa-wa-wa-wooooooooo !!!!!
    :bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye:
     
  8. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    That or a good anesthetic.

    I'm trying this right now:
    Sto Lat !

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  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    I am against alcohol and urge others/you to STOP injesting alcohol.
     
  10. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    yes... i agree... my proposal... doesnt take away any sovereignty.. at all.

    dont get confussed...

    you are making unfounded assumptions...

    -MT
     
  11. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    I will - for today, anyway.

    After reading that thing, it was strong drink or the gas pipe, tho'...
     
  12. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    1) the value of the assets... in the solar system... are atleast... 15 TRILLION TRILLION.... DAH... read it... dont skim over it.

    2) somalia... is not a good example... because that was a small package of gifts... designed to feed SOME people...
    my proposal.. would literally supply jobs to each and every person in somalia... and end poverty for good.
    the government that cooperates with me... would gain more credit in the eyes of their people than they could ever get with a gun.

    3) you dont get it...

    the investments would be real... and large scale.. transforming...
    and they dont have to get paid back...

    the world fed, or I as king of Ecclesia, would give out the FAITH notes, to that nation... thats right give.....
    then that nation, can put them into their treasury... as a security.

    then it can match that value with its own curency... in the billions of dollars... and invest it into their own nation...

    and over time... all they need to do... is buy back the FAITH notes from themselves.... and give them back to me..

    they.. the sovereign nation i am helping... gains in everyway.
    they get massive investment... jobs... and a blooming economy...

    by giving them FAITH notes... that can get massive super sized loans.. without ever a penny of interest... or debt of any kind.
    the notes..... hold the value..

    and their value is real.. within any one nation, if they have faith, in their own peoples ability to do the work... and pay them OFF over time.

    it works.


    4) you really should give it more thought... MY PROPOSAL.. DOESNT COST ANY NATION... ANYTHING...
    IT WOULD MANIFEST THE WEALTH OF THE PLANET FOR THEIR BENEFIT.

    -MT
     
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    I saw it the first time, Mo. I didn't miss it. Do not assume that I have not found a flaw in your proposal. I simply did not read it because I did not find it engaging. If I missed something that would have made my day, I'm sorry.

    Please put an Executive Summary at the top. I expect that to be the first thing I see on any proposal that comes across my desk. If I find that intriguing then I'll read the rest of it.
     
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    What you don't seem to get MT is that not so suddenly this is the monetary system that already exists, money deemed to exist but with no real assets to back it up, nothing to bestow value except for the trust, notes being based literally on our faith in the value of the notes we trade.

    I suggest to bone up on the Monetary Reform campaigns already in progress.

    http://www.google.com/search?num=48...0&ct=result&cd=1&q= "Monetary Reform"&spell=1
     
  15. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    There's no way in hell I'm reading that again.

    You just go on thinking you're the king of Ba-Boopky Land, and that re-building the world won't cost nobody nothin'.

    Hail to the King, baby !!!

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  16. draqon Banned Banned

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    the King...wohooo!
     
  17. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    The Monarch in Repose...

    I find your lack of FAITH...
    ...Disturbing

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  18. akasha1 Registered Senior Member

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    well, i started to read it, but i gave up. i think you really should structure your text better, make it more "userfriendly" (like making more alineas, titles and subtitles))

    then, im not sure, but did you say that you sended that to the UN? if you did, and if you send that same document, i can garantee you that they didnt read further then the introduction, where you put yourself as the all-knowing and them as a pile of idiots.
    its better to start with a summarisation, where you also put your conclusion, so that you get the ppl interested in to reading the rest of it

    as last, if you want to be heard, it always helps to come up with numbers, scientific proof, comparisons and stuff like that.

    i would like to read that proposal again, you might have some good ideas that got lost in the long ass text... give it some more structure and let me know

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  19. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    THATS GOOD ADVISE... thank you.

    -MT
     
  20. Mr. G reality.sys Valued Senior Member

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    Let's start with it's title: The Where's Waldo Proposal

    Dude. Let the obvious speak for itself.

    Brevity.

    Lead with your ultimate point, then support it with an economy of supporting verbosity.

    If you can't come right out and clearly state what you mean, stop writing. There's a reason Nature made stream of consciousness silent.
     
  21. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    DUDES..... still... no one points out the flaws.

    only flaws being discussed... are my own... personnal human ones.

    which, i admit... i have in abundance....

    but that is not the issue..


    nor the challenge here...

    im still waiting.

    -MT
     
  22. the major flaw in your proposal is that you believe that the major motivating force in most people is the same. It has been my expeience that no one has the same priorities. It has also been my experience that most people are not willing to sacrifice for others. They are often willing to give out of excess but very rarely to the point actually having to do without luxuries of their own. the last reason is the cruelest and the worst. People have different levels at which they are content and how hard they are willing to work to improve their lives. I joined the military worked 16 hour days 6 days a week trying to make a decent enough wage to support the lifestyle I wanted and save to go back to school. some people could not or woud not do so. there are people who if not satisfied at least are content to live in squalor rather than making an effort to change them.
     
  23. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    THE military..... is a good sourse of dislcipline.

    -MT
     
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