Quoting sources

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by Theoryofrelativity, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    Is quoting a source advertising?

    I found a quote I liked that happened to support a point I was making. As is customary I referenced my source and provided a link.

    The thread post in question is here:

    The red font indicates the message I was conveying! It does NOT say go and buy the fu*k**g DVD!

    I always reference my sources and use links as evidence source is genuine.

    However, ON this occassion, Vslayer has taken it upon himself to issue me a 'warning' accusing me of advertising!

    I made it clear in BOTH those threads that I have no interest in the source mentioned beyond the fact it supports what I was presenting. Proof here.

    He has deleted every single post I make referring to this fact, for some reason avoiding feedback re his actions.

    He issued an infraction because I told him to improve his reading skills.
    Reason : insulting another member.

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    I do note expect to receive warning for quoting sources.

    Suggesting I am advertising is ridiculous beyond belief. Does he imagine I work for the company I sourced my quote from?

    I felt the information was important and so did refer to it twice, One thread and one duplicate post in members 'feelings ' thread as it reflected my feelings that day!

    Talk about missing the point of my post and NOT being able to comprehend simple English.


    Yes I am moaning again leopold so what?

    So MODERATORS, is quoting a source illegal here now?
     
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  3. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    Happy Birthday to me btw.

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  5. Bells Staff Member

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    *Yawn*

    Seriously, this is getting old. Old I say!!

    I don't think the issue was the thread or the link. It was the duplication of it.

    I mean how many times do you have to spread the secret? Like butter, if left out too long on the spread, it gets a bit stale.

    Don't ask me why, but the red font reminds me of those annoying chain letters that people email to others. The only thing missing is the "send this message to 20 of your friends and you will receive a gift... go on try it and see for yourself".

    Isn't posting the same thread with the same link once enough? Is "The Secret" that important? You do know it was created by an Australian TV producer don't you? Greatest World Commercial if I remember correctly. Really annoying show where one of the Daddo brothers kept making inane jokes and his sidekick was a dog. Anywho, I digress... the duplication made it seem like advertising.

    You should remember the adage of 'less is more'. Applies to make up as well.

    Don't know, don't care. But you need to know something. Posting it over and over again and emailing it to 20 of your spesh friends.. the gift never comes..

    What is the point? That if you sit and imagine something long enough, it will magically be conjured to you? You should play WoW and play a Mage! Then you can conjure food and water.

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    In the meantime, if I sit and imagine that I can deliver my baby sans labour or c-section, will my baby be conjured to me without my having to give birth to it?

    Sorry.. just thought I'd check..

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    Myrtle? Is that you?

    Oh quoting is good. But when you keep repeating the same thing over and over again in different threads, it can be construed as advertising. Hell, it could even be the same as the canned ham called Spam.... mmm ham.. damn listeria risk! Damn you I say..

    Anywho...

    Happy Birthday to you!

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    Oh and tea break is over for me.

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    Happy Birthday ToR, you should treat yourself to a lovely kebab from Kebab Kid 90 New Kings Road, Parsons Green Tel: 020731 0427. Ask to speak to one of the owners and tell them that Coss said you deserve one for free.
     
  8. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    You know what not thinking did don't you, repetition is not advertising. It's 'repetition' else the word 'repetition' would not exist. I don't see the word 'advertising' when I look up repetiton in the dictionary.


    meanwhile

    There was no red font in original post, I did that here for the brain dead to pick up on the fact the point of the post was to think positive, not to promote DVD sales for a company I know nothing about. Idiots need red font it appears.

    I presume you are talking about the film when you say 'the secret' as those words are not owned by that company or that producer. The error Vslayer made was assuming those words are exclusive to the film. They are NOT!

    The film is not important to me, the quote I used was.

    This is boring to you and believe me, not being able to post fuckall here with a warning is boring to me. An infraction for saying 'learn to read'

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    I am not going to change my ways or apologise for the stupidity of those
    who cannot read properly.

    Quite amusing given the nature of the thread, that those opposing the idea that thoughts manifest things seem to create their own version of reality all the time!

    I like red font

    If Vslayer dislikes repetition then he'd better stay ontop of the game with everyone else and give infractions for comments such as the one I was infracted for lest he be accused of victimisation.

    VSLAYER learn to read, stick that in your infracting pipe and smoke it.

    Either that or realise your error and apologise like a man.
     
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  9. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    You are the Kebab King!

    And now I will have to report you

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    http://www.myspace.com/theoryofr

    I'll report you here

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    see all the pretty colours on myspace and NO dearest moderators, there's not a single blog about you lot. My readers aren't interested in you it seems. Neither am I.
     
  10. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    reported for spamming advertisements.

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  11. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    I wish I were reported for spamming. 4,000 posts of spam and counting.
     
  12. Bells Staff Member

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    *Sigh*... can't sleep..

    Ummm.. I think I do. But then I am thinking I might not. What do you think?

    But why do you feel the need to repeat yourself? You don't need to plug it that much. We kind of got it the first time.

    Next time I shall make myself more clear and say "the bit you have highlighted in the red font in this thread"..

    You say you aren't promoting the video? So why post it and/or word it like this?

    "There is a film about this 'phenomenon' called 'The Secret'.

    http://www.thesecret.tv/home.html

    It says this on the site for the film:

    For the first time in history, the world's leading scientists, authors, and philosophers will reveal The Secret that utterly transformed the lives of every person who ever knew it... Plato, Newton, Carnegie, Beethoven, Shakespeare, Einstein.

    In this astonishing program are ALL the resources you will ever need to understand and live The Secret." "​


    You know the saying... 'if it looks like a duck.. walks like a duck.. quacks like a duck.. it most probably is a duck'..

    The quote you used was a plug for the movie. Had you read it, you would have realised it right from the get go.

    And it was not the quote that you gave a link to. The 'quote' does not even appear in the link. So it can very well be construed as being an advertisement for the film.. especially in light of the fact that half the quote actually discusses the film and its message.

    Come come ToR, it was not worded quite as nicely as that now was it?

    Fair enough. Then don't get pissy when you get infractions for stuff which others get warnings first off (which you received first) and then an infraction for, as well.

    My current version of reality has me sipping a margharitta and eating a ham sandwich while wearing a bikini by a pool in Fiji. It's not really working but hey.. have to try.. mmmm delusions..

    Who says he does not?

    Anyone who is writing the same post over and over again gets an infraction. Hell, some even get banned. Spammers virtually get an auto ban.

    Infracting pipe?

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    Or what? You're going to meet him at noon with your keyboard at the ready?

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    Honestly..
     
  13. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    Er, because I am referencing my source

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    you are clearly in the requiring 'red font' catcagory


    I'll try to add a disclaimer next time I reference a source, wud dat be eazia for ya?​
     
  14. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    reported for excessive wishing.
     
  15. Bells Staff Member

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    Yes, but what source did you reference?

    The only link that appeared was the one for the film itself.

    Do. You. Get. It. Now?

    Well it would be a start if you actually start writing in English.

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  16. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    are you crazy and paranoid?

    I did a direct copy and paste, I can't be arsed to check word for word if they've edited it. But I've looked back briefly and at a glance looks the same to me.

    Meanwhile yes, I'm on commison, the film is bombing, so I've been recruited to give it a boost. *disclaimer NOT TRUE*

    Get a fuckin' life for crying out loud. I can't believe someone who alleges to any sense at all defends this idiotic presumption.

    Oh I forgot, you were the first to make that idiotic assumption weren't you. Your first reply was about the film. Kind of off topic I thought, hence my following post clearing up the fact I am not interested in the film.


    Funny really, separates those who can comprehend the written word and those who cannot rather well.
     
  17. Bells Staff Member

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    Both actually. Why?

    LOL!

    Oh dear lord.

    Ok, you claim to reference your quotes but where did the quote come from and you actually used that as a defence?

    You still don't get it?

    A reference usually means you are posting a link or directing people to where YOU got the quote. The link in the quote you posted does not direct anyone to where you actually got it.

    And I still can't believe you just don't get it.

    Go back and read it again nubby. Everyone thought you were discussing the movie.. it starts at the first reply to your original post.. Link.. To refresh your waning memory.

    Ok.. Playtime is over..


    Seriously ToR, you posted the damn thing in different threads and forums on this site. Usually it is deemed to be advertising and spamming. You got a warning about it.. you got pissy and abusive.. then you got an infraction for it..

    Why do you do this each time you come back to this site? Are you that starved for attention? It is getting boring and predictable. I am about to start posting a roster to try to determine who will be next when you decide to drop by again. It is like a cycle with you. You were treated and warned like everyone else is if they do what you did. Why do you expect special treatment? Why do you think you deserve special or different treatment? We are all bound to the same rules ToR. If I did what you did, I too would have gotten a warning and then an infraction if I reacted as you did. Grow the hell up.

    You were down right insulting, rude and abusive to a moderator when he did nothing but warn you that duplicate posting in different threads (which you had done) of sites such as the one contained in your identical posts could be construed as being advertising and spamming. Vslayer was not rude or insulting to you. He just gave you a gentle warning and you reacted like some kind of demented harpy. And you expect he apologises when he actually did nothing wrong? Ya..

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    Honestly ToR... Stop being the drama queen. It is dull and boring as hell.
     
  18. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    Liar

    I click the link and I can see the quote

    I also didn't post about it ALL over the forum, I posted it 2 times and re this complaint but that does not count. 2 times is NOT all over the forum except to an exceptionally dellusional person.

    At the end of the day if you want to believe I am promoting a film I have not seen, don't intend to see, never asked anyone else to see, and am not employed by anyone concerning it, and said catagorically I am NOT interested in, IN the threads concerned that is YOUR PARANOIA.

    Let's hope this paranoia is just symptomtic of your pregnacy and you get over it by the time baby is born.

    WHY ARE YOU TRYING DESPERATELY TO PROVE DESPITE MY CONTRARY POSTS IN THOSE THREADS I WAS DELIBERATELY ADVERTISING?

    What is my motivation?

    You say I'm boring, but you keep coming back for more, every thread I post in, there YOU are.

    Reality Bells, try it some time.

    (funny coming from me resident woo woo)

    And yes I expect a LONG retort, full of inaccuracies, lies and adhoms. That is your style afterall.

    I am defending the fact (not hard given fact I dismissed film in the threads) that I was nOt advertising, just referencing my source.

    Yet here you are desperately trying to say 'yes you were, yes you were' like a baby! GROW UP.

    I shan't waste my time trying to spread positive messages here again. What a fool am I to try to do such a thing HERE of all places, where misery and closed minds reside.

    oh and because you keep missing the point here it is again

    At the end of the day if you want to believe I am promoting a film I have not seen, don't intend to see, never asked anyone else to see, and am not employed by anyone concerning it, and said catagorically I am NOT interested in, IN the threads concerned that is YOUR PARANOIA.
     
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  19. Bells Staff Member

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    Since this has reached ridiculour proportions. The link you posted did not lead to your "quote".

    The link leads directly to:

    Now do you see why some may think you are promoting the film?

    Refer to above.

    Again, refer to above.

    Refer to the link YOU posted.

    Don't know. Don't really care actually. Annoyance value maybe?

    It's like that scab one keeps picking at..

    And I am all over the place in this forum my dear. I am free to post where I so choose.

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    Indeed.

    Your "quote" did not come from your link. Your link led directly to an advertisement of the film. Geez Rosey, a 2 year old would have understood this by now.

    I choose to regress.

    We do not reside here. We exist here.

    And you weren't defending yourself about your 'quote'. You were having yet another go at Vslayer. All this got old after last time my dear. It gets older each time you start up again.

    Oh for the love of..

    Well next time, don't link your 'quote' and 'reference' directly to the film itself and then claim "I was misunderstood".

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    And personally, I don't really care where you got your so called 'quote' or 'reference' from. Looks like a chain letter to me, but meh. Maybe you're into those as well. None of my business.

    Now as I stated before, all this keeps repeating itself. I will remind you that you are expected to follow the same rules that apply to all of us here. Your actions could have been construed as advertising and spamming. And they were seen that way. So it was pointed out to you in a PM. You decided to go off on some tangent. Drama queen reigns again. It's getting old Rosey.
     
  20. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    WHat is the 'quote' exactly?

    Is it "Be careful what you wish for?" If so, then it's not really a phrase which needs a reference... is it?
    But, even if it does, the only bitch that anyone had is that you apparently crossposted in verbatim in two separate threads.
    Sheesh.


    Or. Is it: "For the first time in history, the world's leading scientists, authors, and philosophers will reveal The Secret that utterly transformed the lives of every person who ever knew it... Plato, Newton, Carnegie, Beethoven, Shakespeare, Einstein.

    In this astonishing program are ALL the resources you will ever need to understand and live The Secret."

    If so, then that's just marketing hype.
    Super amazing stupendous!!!!
     

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