News from the Colonies - America's War in Iraq

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Sci-Phenomena (Post 612): "...we western minded people have quite a different way of thinking".

Jeezus, will you please lay the White Man's Burden down, already. We have different circumstances in the "West", but standard-issue Human minds, hopes, and dreams.

"The whole land in the Middle East is filled with conflict and has been for a long time"

Europe's been far more violent throughout history. Even in the more distant and horrific eras of Mideast history... guess where the megadeath was imported from? Guess who drew these fucked-up borders? Guess who blurted out the Balfour Declaration?

Residents of the Mideast are no more savage than the disoriented, armed, and dangerous American teenagers now terrorizing the residents of Baghdad- The latest installment of disastrous Western meddlers.

 

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Many Americans and even some former military such as myself are equally appalled at the events in Iraq and Afghanistan. This administration as the same disregard for human rights at home.

 

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I think people who actually fight in a war (ie the soldiers) are more aware of what it entails than those who sit at home and send others to fight for them.

This is clear from the rejection of the war tsar role, as well as the declaration of quitting in case of an attack on Iran.

 

Oh dear...they are now building walls everywhere in Iraq turning it into one big prison.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6579335.stm

 

Maybe we could all pay 5 Euros to have our name splattered in blood on it.

 

One of the most important quotes from that article:

"Other residents also expressed alarm and said they had not been consulted before construction began."

Hey, let's just randomly build walls that go through neighborhoods. Who cares what the people think?

 

The great American logic: If you build a wall big enough around a problem, you won't see it and thus it will disappear.

Americans didn't understand Iraqis when they invaded Iraq, and they seem not to be a cm smarter now.

 

americans dont use the metric system.

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Hmmm...interesting.

Al-Maliki: No wall in Baghdad community

Do we let the democratically-elected President of Iraq decide what goes on in his country or should the US military/government do what it wants and continue on with the building, irregardless of the DEMOCRATICALLLY-ELECTED IRAQI GOVERNMENT?

 

He agree with the wall earlier ....then apparently changed his mind. Or worse, someone "changed" his mind through coercion or threat???

And please don't forget .....Iraqis are killing Iraqis. The US is trying to stop that, yet y'all seem to be complaining about that. Do you want Iraqis to continue killing Iraqis??

Baron Max

 

Maybe you shouldn't have invaded in the first place.

 

spuriousmonkey

That doesn't answer the Barons question, we went to Iraq and we removed Saddam, it was done, so now, as the Baron has ask:

 

So if the job is done, why are you still there?

 

What about getting the fuck out of there?

 

But regrets about past actions don't solve any of the present problems, does it. One can condemn the actions of the past from now 'til the cows come home, but it does no good in solving the present.

Baron Max

 

And let the Iraqis kill the other Iraqis until one or the other dominates? Or kills all of the other group? Is that what you want to see happen?

Baron Max

 

Segregation isn't the way to stop the violence. At least before the invasion, although there was deep mistrust between Sunnis and Shiites, they weren't openly battling it out and ethnically cleansing each other.

 

Well, it's certainly one way! If no Sunni ever came in contact with a Shiite, then he could kill him, could he? See? Segregation works quite well.

Oh, sure ...that's because Sadman's government oppressed them both to the point of not being able to do anything. And if they did, they were tortured and killed. Is that what you'd like to see there again???

Baron Max