Laws without substantial reason

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jeremyhfht, May 26, 2007.

  1. Jeremyhfht Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, sorry. I live on planet RATIONAL COMPROMISES. My bad.
     
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  3. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Regardless of the label you choose to use, what you presented was sheer nonsense. And note - before you start claiming personal attacks again, I'm not attacking you but rather your absurdly stupid statement. It just doesn't fly in the real world - in ANY country in this world.
     
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  5. Jeremyhfht Registered Senior Member

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    Naturally. The real world is full of fascism and stupid laws.

    We apparently live in a bizarro world where any rational solution to a problem is labeled "nonsense" because there is apparently nobody in office smart enough to suggest any compromise to the situation.

    If you ask me, the present law in place is sheer nonsense. Regardless of the label you choose to use.
     
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  7. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Of course it's nonsense to you - you want to live in a woo-woo idealistic world that doesn't exist. All the rest of us, however, live in the REAL world and understand why it works the way it does. And it actually makes sense for it to be this way, despite what you WANT it to be. Just keep getting older and one day you might understand it also.
     
  8. Jeremyhfht Registered Senior Member

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    No, I live in a world where all I see are flaws within the government. So many I'd like to see them rectified. I think of tons of solutions every day, and all of them are immensely realistic if even applied properly.

    I fail to see how it makes sense for it to be that way, when all that happens is increasing corruption and internal flaws within the already broken system. It is you who live in an idealistic fantasy world if you think that age makes you realize anything, or if you think it makes sense for the human race to be screwed as it is. Albeit not very idealistic, but largely reliant on fantasy.

    Keep growing, read-only. Perhaps one day you'll end up with some WRITE-ONLY software.
     
  9. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    No, the problem is that you cannot properly discern the difference between your half-baked thoughts and the way things really work - and why. Hopefully, you will gain knowledge and wisdom as you grow older and THAT will allow you to better understand the things that escape your limited understanding today. Note that I'm certainly NOT saying that the world is perfect - far from it!!!!! But rather that your degree of understanding is even farther from perfect. You've just barely begun experiencing life and therefore naturally know very little about it. (Despite what you THINK you know.)
     
  10. Jeremyhfht Registered Senior Member

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    ...this is a waste of my time.
     
  11. Exploradora Registered Senior Member

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    List of great institutionalised human wrongs
    -Genocide
    -The Death Penalty
    -CO2 Emissions
    -Laws allowing "reasonable force" when disciplining a child
    -Lack of affordable and accessible healthcare
    -Seat Belt Laws

    hmmm... that makes sense.
     
  12. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Anyone who puts genocide and seat belt laws in the same list needs to put some serious efforts into understanding their faulty thought processes.
     
  13. Exploradora Registered Senior Member

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    And that was a completely and totally serious statement. Not sarcastic what so ever.
     
  14. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    If you've bothered to read this thread then you can easily see how seat belt laws are for the financial protection of the average citizen. Reducing vehicle injuries represents a savings for ALL of us. And that's a totally serious statement also.
     
  15. Exploradora Registered Senior Member

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    Have you read the other statements I have made on this thread? I believe, although I am not certain, that I was defending seat belt laws before you entered the discussion.

    I will break it down- I compared seatbelt laws to genocide because people are acting like seat belt laws are a horrible state sanctioned injustice. In reality GENOCIDE is a horrible state sanctioned injustice. I was being sarcastic and satirical.

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  16. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    I see. I failed to recognize what you were trying to do and now that I know I made a mistake I apologize. Sorry.
     
  17. Exploradora Registered Senior Member

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    Tis forgiven

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  18. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    yes it is.
    Since you do not have an mind open to learning.

    you could it seems... but rage, it seems, blinds you to the truth which can only be found with calm reasoning.
     
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  20. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    I wasnt talking about you.
    -MT
     
  21. heliocentric Registered Senior Member

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    wow is this thread still going, im glad i bailed on it when i did.
     
  22. Soyarma Registered Member

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    If we simply denied the person not wearing a seatbelt the taxpayer's or hospital money...

    Can you imagine the litigation that would ensue from the debate on how much of the injury was caused by not wearing the seatbelt vs. how much was? I can only imagine that Jeremy's notions are oriented towards a smoother functioning society, but this one (when taken to its logical conclusion) would be a bit counterproductive.

    What's that saying? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. That’s something that we can see in both statistical and anecdotal evidence. It's also very widely applicable.
     
  23. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Correct, and that's precisely the WHOLE problem with his entire line of thinking - he's unequipped to carry them through to the point of seeing what the ultimate outcome would be. He's a bright kid but he simply does not (yet) know enough to fully complete those mental processes.

    And while we're sort of on the subject, that's the biggest single problem with everyone his age in that they know just enough to start making noises and not nearly enough to see where those ideas would ultimately lead. And that's why I suggested he grow up and THEN come back in a few years because he (and they) will have an entirely different prospective then.

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