Hello sciforums community. Back in high school I ate some illegal mushrooms which a "friend" gave to me (fiend) but the trick was that there was black mold on these mushrooms, but at the time I didn't know what the black coating was, thought it was normal for psychedelic mushrooms. Anyway, needless to say I had a bad night and we started talking conspiracy and now it seems that the conspiracy is so real I must be messed up. Is it possible that eating black mold on psychedelic mushrooms could upset my chemical ballance enough to make me see miniature UFOs floating around in my room!? Ever since I ate that shit back in high school I've been seeing strange things, and people have said strange things to me which they later deny and always have a weird look on their face when asked about it. Part of me wants to believe they are "out to get me" from the stuff they've said, but part of me wants to believe their denials when I ask them about the stuff I thought they said.... auditory/visual hallucinations?! To tell you the scope of this, for a while I even thought that my family had been converted by some alien force into some kind of robotic mind-controlled top secret agents who were employed to kill me and make it look like natural causes so that the "truth" I contained in my head (or at least THOUGHT I contained) wouldn't get out into the public eye. Just the other night I glanced towards the door of my room as I layed in bed and I saw a blue light just floating in the air shining on me, at first I thought it was a mini-UFO-probe letting out X-radiation to give me cancer but I may be snapping back to reality. I just hope I don't snap out of it again... Any advice!?!?!?!? (also around the same stupid time in my life I took a whole box of dramamine (12 motion sickness pills) and I saw a bunch of flying saucers in the sky that day and I think this too may have messed up my brain a bit) Also durring this troubling time in my life I started watching a bunch of conspiracy movies and I got sucked into the bullshit.,,,
Greetings fellow human creature, welcome to the collective. There is no conspiracy, accept that you are as lame as you seem. There is no vast intergalactic threat, etc. believe me I've been there, wanting to find meaning in something to make your life seem more interesting. These are called floaters, they are not UFO's. Unknown :shrug: I cannot find logic or meaning to this, but you are dramatizing it. I've thought this alot too, infact I truly believed it for a very, very long time after I'd read My Teacher Is An Alien. You were dreaming dear fellow, either that or you took a seemingly real phenomena and over-dramatized it. Be honest with yourself, stop worrying. It's possible, but the likelyness of this effect lasting beyond a few days is low. Infact I'd say it's impossible either the mushrooms or the sickness pills can have longterm effects. What is possible is that they triggered an already present condition causing you this seemingly longterm effect. Now find me a girlfriend :L Also durring this troubling time in my life I started watching a bunch of conspiracy movies and I got sucked into the bullshit.,,,[/QUOTE]
Try this. Silly, I know. Take a simple device of your making that will 'protect' you (not traditional aluminum foil), and see how much you put into it. Log your experience. If you feel there's power in an inanimate object, seek medical aid. If not, Report Your Experiences! I gave this advice to a friend once who was a Chemist, and he chose Sulfur candles, with rods of Silver with pitting for visual effect. This emitted ions which the 'aliens' should have been afraid of. Found out it was his roommate playing tricks on him!
I don't think you're "mentally ill" because that implies some permanent problem. I'd suggest that you're "emotionally ill" and it was triggered by the mushroom experience. We all have some irrational fears but most of the time we're able to keep them under control. Psychedelic drugs teach you how to let out things that you normally keep under wraps. In my observations of stoned people they generally damp down the logical, analytical, linear left-brain functions and allow the creative, holographic right-brain functions to become more dominant. This is why artists, musicians, chess players, etc. like them, because they learn to use those right-brained functions and they retain that knowledge of how to get back into them even after the drug wears off. The problem with taking psychedelic drugs during childhood is that you haven't developed your adult mental controls yet. When the drug opens up something creative, like your rather interesting dreams and rather scary fears, you don't quite have the ability to shut them off when the drug wears off. You've learned how to access them, but you haven't learned how to manage that gateway and return your mind's seat to the vertical position for landing. I would compare what you have to stuttering, or being afraid of spiders, or nail biting. You've got a bad connection in your synapses, but it can be repaired. That's why it's not a "mental illness," those are difficult or impossible to heal. You can choose to live with this if it's not making you dysfunctional, but it sounds like a tough problem to put up with. It may not interfere with work but it is bound to have an impact on your relationships. You can see a psychotherapist if you have insurance that covers it or if you can afford to pay for it. A good one should be able to get to the bottom of this. My recommendation is to try the Emotional Freedom Technique. Its practitioners have had a lot of sucess with things like this. (No, you are not alone.) And it works quickly, you don't have to spend a year in therapy before you find out if it's working. They've cured the aforementioned stuttering and arachnophobia in one session. It's all vocal, it doesn't require face-to-face meetings so you can do it over the phone. It's basically a combination of two traditional techniques that are neither dangerous nor controversial. One is a sort of chanting, where you put your problem into words and talk yourself into a positive scenario. Our ability to use conscious techniques to change the way we feel and behave is well established. The other is a method of tapping yourself on some of the acupressure points. Again, the success of acupressure and acupuncture with full-fledged pain management is legendary, so using it for something purely psychological is pretty reasonable. You start talking to your practitioner about your problem, being guided into setting your statements up in the proper context, and you tap while you're doing it, and you start discovering new things about yourself and your problem as you keep talking. It might be gone at the end of your hour, or you might need to keep working on it by yourself, or you might need another phone session. Here's the E.F.T. website: http://www.emofree.com/Fear/fear-flying-goa.htm I deliberately put you on a page with the account of a woman who was cured of her fear of flying with a single phone consultation. You can click back to the home page and find a list of practitioners. If you can't find one, I can recommend an American lady working in Australia who charges about $100 US. But they're like shrinks or anybody else, you have to feel good chemistry with the one you choose. I don't promise this will work, but it's pretty unlikely that it will do any harm, and at least it's relatively fast and cheap. There's obviously a bit of woo-woo in the way they present E.F.T. because they have to market to the crystal-healies and past-lifers and homeopathics and all the other New-Agers. But there's not really anything spiritual or supernatural about it, or you can bet that the Fraggle would not have tried it.
It's probably not a good idea, unless you feel stable enough to deal with it, but I wonder what would happen if you took those drugs now.
The "black mold" on mushrooms is part dirt and part fertilizer. In other words, it contains bullshit.
Ahhhh, but these "floaty" ufos I've seen actually project light into the room! At least thats what it looks like... Maybe I should take mushrooms again, perhaps it would allow me to return in order to leave that mindset once and for all? thanks for all your input people.... It's hard to cope with life when you're stuck in some kind of psychedelic mindset... I don't really like talking to people I don't know, so I don't think I could get in the groove to speak for an hour or so with some "shrink" I've never conversed with before, especially over the phone, I fear and hate the phone so much, especially since i can't see who Im talking to on the otherside, I suppose this brings up more shit, I have "phonophobia" god damn it, god damn it. but with those people who I thought said things they all deny, I don't know what to think of that, I swear I saw their mouth moving and sounds coming from their mouth, perhaps they said something else and I tripped out on what I thought they said or some shit
If you don't want to see a 'shrink', go see your regular doctor. I honestly think you do need some medical help. And ermmm.. trying the mushrooms again could in fact make you worse.
That's a hallucination. They call them "magic mushrooms" because they typically make people hallucinate. You're having what people used to call "flashbacks"--hallucinations made possible by the drug, but occurring at a later time when the drug is no longer in your bloodstream. Sometimes they're a replay of an image you had when you were stoned, other times they're just a similar experience but a different image. As I said, when you were stoned you learned to open doorways--"activate synapses" in scientific language--to some dreams, fears, stories or other unreal images deep in your brain. Since you were too young to be doing shrooms and your mental processes were not fully matured, you apparently were incapable of learning to close those doorways--to inactivate the synapses. So they keep popping open. These things you are seeing and hearing are not real! They are hallucinations! That's why they call that category of drugs "hallucinogens." We all have some really scary shit inside us, and you unfortunately opened a doorway to yours that you're having trouble getting closed. If you don't want to do E.F.T. by phone, I'm sure the people at the website can help you find a practitioner near you whom you could see in person. Are you in or near a big city? Most of the people on SciForums are kids. If there are any of you kids reading this thread, I hope you're learning from Pheno's experience. Anyone familiar with my postings will assure you that I am quite tolerant of drug use. Many people have had wonderful experiences by using drugs. But ADULTS!!! This experience you're reading about is a textbook example of why young people should not be using drugs. Your minds and emotions have not finished developing and drugs won't have the same effect on you that they have on adults. The inability to close a door that the drugs opened is a typical problem, and Pheno's little hallucinations are harmless entertainment compared to what some kids have experienced!
Yeah whatever Fraggle, Drugs are bad mmmkay.... This post reminds me of Heinie. Heinie was not his original name, I don't even think he was german. It was the name given, because this guy did wayyyyyy too much acid in the 60s. Well he was my cousins friend(much older) but at age 10 I became more "aware" than Heinie was. One time they let me shoot him with a paintgun. Paintguns were new to the public at that time and we wanted to see how much it hurt. With no volunteers, we nominated Heinie(we step back so he stepped forward kind of thing). After about 2 beers Heinie could relapse into an LSD trance, like the suds in the beer somehow brought out the 20year old fucked up chemicals in his body. He didn't even feel the first shot directly to the sternum...it was LOUD LMAO. He kinda raised his hand to his chest like as if to shoo a black fly away. See we put his sun glasses on so he couldn't see where the shots were coming from(me behind the woodpile) and it was a good thing too because shot 2 nailed them right off his face. Well he felt shot 3 (to the abdomen)because he went oooeeeWWW really loud and then doubled over one hand on his gut and the other supporting him in a tripod position. He was looking around, now wise that something was going on and everyone was laughing pretty hard including the cameraman(in the days of VHS). The last shot I placed right on his ass cheek while bent over and he was wearing these stupid thin pants that didn't go past your calves(they were in-style, his only attempt since 69'), so it hit like on his bare ass and want SMACK really loud. It looked like he was dancing around crab-like in a circle holding his ass and his balls crying that we were killing him... Later I was pretty glad I didn't actually hit him in the balls(or the eye), I really didn't know how dangerous paint guns were that first time.
I suppose the lesson is, learn everything you can about something.....PRIOR to putting it in your mouth. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Fraggle has a huge point, and its that drug use at such an early age can truly screw up your neuro chemistry. My old room mate put himself in the funny farm at the age of 17 from regular acid use. Curious, how much of the substance did you consume? and what was the strain? the potency?
I ate an 8th of some really potent shit, but Im becoming quite convinced that the black stuff on the stems was indeed black mold rather than just soil. I'm also beginning to think I gained systematic-fybromyalgia by eating it. Since that time I've had a strange extremely itchy rash which is hard to get rid of, strange mental problems, white in my tonsils, and a "tripped up" conspiracy theory that the Dr doesn't really want to help me. I've also done some research and it reveals that fybromyalgia can have adverse affects, physical and mental alike.... (also to mention my house has been infected by black mold for many years, and we're just too fucking poor to have it properly taken care of, sometimes I just hate this life)
What exact symptoms are you having that makes you think you have fibromyalgia or a mold exposure? I recently went through a fibromyalgia/black mold scare of my own and have done alot of research on it and know alot about it. In my own case I went through a massive black mold paranoia and moved out of my apartment so I am 99% sure the mold wasn't a factor. Just to point out that a person can be absolutely convinced of something that seems reasonable but isn't true. You should have the mold tested. You can get relatively cheap testing kits at Home Depot. Also, you must have eaten this shit with friends right? Did they start having fibromyalgia too or just you? Lastly, my fibro symptoms have been greatly reduced by diet, exercise, cutting out drinking/smoking, good sleep, and stress reduction. You should definitely implement these changes as soon as possible because no matter what the cause of your problems they will help. You don't sound that screwed up but it definitely sounds like you should make some positive changes.
