The Meaning Of Life!!!

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Lesion42, Aug 13, 2002.

  1. Lesion42 Deranged Hermit Registered Senior Member

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    ...is to create more life! that's all there is to it. We are a paradoxical creation, are we not? But think about it. Everything that we do in life can be traced back to increasing our disirability to possible sexual partners, who in turn aid in the creation of more life. Or, taking care of the planet: the only point of a healthy planet is to sustain life. Just keep on rolling situations over in your head, and you will find this to be true. Kind of disapointing, isn't it?

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    Stay cool,
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  3. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    I agree:

    The meaning of life is sex.
     
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  5. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Hey Firefly, wanna have a deep philosophical discussion? *wink-wink*

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  7. Lesion42 Deranged Hermit Registered Senior Member

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    No! Me! Me!

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    But seriously, that's all it is!
     
  8. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    LOL, thanks for the offer, suggest a time and place and I'll get right back to you.

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    Seriously though, this seems to have deeper revelations: if it is, then we are just biological organisms. There is no "mind" necessary, not even really a conscioussness or deep awareness; we are here simply to procreate (one might wonder why we live for so long after having sex; it seems more logical that having sex might somehow push the body towards the end of it's lifespan. Also how we even developed a conscioussness). It's also a little disapointing; there's no spiritual revelation or anything (though maybe something close

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    ). Every second of our life, every inbuilt defence mechanism, very survival instinct is in us just so we can have sex.

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  9. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    *Adam jumps on a plane...*
     
  10. Lesion42 Deranged Hermit Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I came up with a rather amibguous saying that originally applied directly to this. It can be applied to many other things however, such as life and death. Anyhoo, here it is:

    "It's not where you're going, it's how you get there"

    Not sure if it makes much sense to you guys, but it works for me.

    (Lesion jumps on the plane, throws Adam down the stairs then high-tails it to the first class seating)

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  11. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    LMAO Lesion and Adam, I'll let you fight it out between you (I'm assuming you're both guys!?) Didn't realise I was such a desired female!

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    And Lesion, you made up the saying? Cos I'm sure I've heard it before...

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    Though if the meaning of life is sex, well, it's not like you personally lose out if you stay celibate (except I guess your bloodline would dissappear), though it does kind of put a different light on nympho's.

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  12. Lesion42 Deranged Hermit Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah. I made it up. There are sayings that sound similar word wise, but they have different meanings. I also made up the saying on my sig, of which I am proud. And of course you're desirable. Pardon if this sounds cliche *shudder* or stupid, but you're witty and intelligent, what more is there? Anyone who meets that criteria is good in my book. (Pushes Adam back down stairs and meekly asks a passing flight attendant for a tiny cup of warm flat ginger ale they serve up there)

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  13. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, saw the saying in your sig. I made up a whole load of sayiongs when I was little (so they were some what ... simpler

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    ) but forgot all of them pretty quickly, so they can't've been that good.

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    thanks for the compliments, though it seems for the most part of my comments, I'm agreeing with you.

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    Hope the flight is not too bad.

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    Though erm, the topic seems to be spiralling outta control ...

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    Who'd've thought, a topic about sex, and we're actually off it.

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  14. Lesion42 Deranged Hermit Registered Senior Member

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  15. SeeKer Registered Member

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    Hmm..

    Meaning of life is sex.. meaning of sex is propogation of genes.. yes yes..the obvious.. Anyone here considered the reason for the universe wanting[err..for lack of an appropriate term] to propogate itself (in the form of DNA or whatever other means it is able to do so?
    In terms of humans.. propogating a form of life allowing one to possess consciousness? I think that there is the troublesome question ... in a nutshell.
    Basically.. Why Exist??, and be able to "<u>Know</u>" of it. I use the word Know rather questionably.. heh

    -Talk to ya neurons lata
     
  16. mgs Registered Member

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    Hi,
    I wonder if it is better to consider what you want, instead of considering what the universe wants, because you are you and you can control yourself, so all I mean is do you want what the universe wants? And I also mean, you don't even know what the universe wants, do you?
    And I also mean isn't life quite pointless unless we realise that we don't know everything about it?
    You could speculate that the purpose of life is persistance is increase in intelligence. Also you could think like that, because it makes sense to become less short sighted so that you can then (by definition) make better decisions.

    And I also mean, don't you want to help to decrease ignorance?
     
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  17. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Hmm..

    Well, non conscious stuff multiplies too ....
    Yeah, but one might say cos you're human that therefore makes you too close to judge. Though I suppose being part of the universe isn't much different...
     
  18. %BlueSoulRobot% Copyright! Copyright!! Registered Senior Member

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    I think SeeKer's onto something...why exist? To propagate. Why propagate? To exist. But why do we want to exist, if all we're doing is existing to propagate?

    Why are you sitting there right now, trying to work hard and do well in what you do, when you know that all you are good for is propagation?

    Then, are we nothing but whores and prostitutes, vessels of potential human beings, with no purpose other than to procreate as rapidly and efficiently as possible?

    Why bother living then, if your lives are narrowed down to such tedium? You're born, you propagate, you die. You might as well kill yourself.
     
  19. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    This is another one of those philosophy questions that comes up every few weeks. It's one of the most over-thought comments by atheists. Here, follow the logic.


    Do you believe in God? If Yes - read answer 1. If No - read answer 2.

    1) Your special book should tell you what the meaning of your life is, or, if not it is a search which is meant to take the span of your life to discover the God-given purpose of your life.

    2) There is no "purpose" of life on an objectional stance. Explore the definition of "purpose".

    - "The object toward which one strives or for which something exists; an aim or a goal"
    - "A result or effect that is intended or desired; an intention"

    Now, there are two possible meanings from the first definition (both from dictionary.com by the way). The first part "object toward which one strives" implies that each person has a different goal. Therefore we can't say "The purpose of life..." is anything simply because it would be different to everyone. Or some people may have none. Some people may have no goals in their life. The second part, "object for which something exists" implies that there is some higher being which would give us this object. A 'reason' needs someone to hand it down. This can either be yourself - in which case, as was stated, the purpose is different for everyone - or a higher being - but you already said you're an atheist, right? The second definition "A result or effect that is intended or desired" again shows these two possibilities. A "result that is desired" and a "result that is intended" would tend to mean that the individual desired or intended an ends, though could fit to mean that a higher being desired or intended the ends. Of course, all definition also fit to mean that another human party has decided a purpose for your life - though I like to think there isn't much life-long slavery going on.




    As for Bluesoul, this is pseudo-philosophy for all purposes (that's a bad pun). You say that we might as well kill ourselves because there's no purpose? What you've basically said is "since there is no God, we might as well just kill ourselves". For starters - nice example of how religion might have started; people want a purpose to life, it's a nice thought. More importantly, you're conclusion is useless. We might as well kill ourselves? Why? Because there's no purpose? Fine, so determine one for yourself if you need that kind of supervision so badly.
     
  20. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "Anyone here considered the reason for the universe wanting[err..for lack of an appropriate term] to propogate itself (in the form of DNA or whatever other means it is able to do so?"

    The Universe wanting? First of all, define 'Universe'. As far as I know, the Universe is not some large thinking being. Therefore it cannot 'want' anything.
     
  21. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    I believe that the meaning of life is:

    If there was no life, technically, nothing would exsist (sorta like, if a tree fell and no-one was around to hear it, does it make a sound).
     
  22. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    me

    meaning of life:
    survival of the skillest!

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    so in life we learn
    the more we learn the mor we can do
    the mor we do the mor we learn
    take action and gain knowledge
    gain knowledge and take action
    use knowledge and action 2 contibute to others

    others gain knowledge and take action and the outcome is growth

    laugh


    so does anything really matter?
    does it matter:
    wether u liv or die?
    if u hav sex or procreate?
    what u eat?
    if u enjoyed urself and lived a good life?
    i ur happy?
    if u contributed 2 others?
    if u run around killing people?
    wether someone close 2 u dies?
    wether u win an award?
    wether or not u make the team?
    wether ur rich or poor?
    wether u struggle or relax?
    what u look like?
    who u worship?
    wat u beleive?
    how intelligent u r?
    how nice u r?
    how appealing u r 2 the opposite sex?
    if ur funny?
    if ur a total retard ass hole?
    how much self esteem u posses?
    wether anybody cares 4 u?
    wether u care 4 anyone?
    what u dreamt about las nyt?
    wether ur room is clean?
    if ur healthy or sik?
    if ur safe or not?
    if truth exists?
    if u had a crummy past?
    wether u completed ur tasks?
    if ur bored or always changing?
    how much or little sleep u been getting?
    wether u see this movie u wer looking 4ward 2?
    wether anybody will rember u?
    wether u live in jail or follow the rules?
    how much attention u get?
    how connected u r 2 ur loved ones?
    wether or not ur unique and one of a kind?
    wether u take action or not?
    wether u gain knowledge?
    how money u made?
    if u breath?
    wether u showered?
    wether u love?
    wether or not u appreciate wat u hav?
    if ur a productiv member of society?
    if ur a destructiv menace 2 society?
    wether or not u fulfilled ur dreams?
    wether or not u had goals or dreams in the first place?
    if u laugh?
    if u cry?
    if u create the works of art?
    if u watch the workd go by?
    if sciforum exists?
    wether or not u exist?
    if u make it 2 heaven?
    if u burn in hell?
    if u wer never born?
    if u hav all the answers?
    if u hav no answers?
    wether u can answer or not?
    wether or not ther is an answer?
    DOES IT REALLY MATTER?
    DOES IT REALLY MAKE A DIFFRENCE?
     
  23. SeeKer Registered Member

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    Of course it ins't a large thinking being..for all we know..
    this is the reason for my "[for lack of an appropriate term]" remark..
    I wasn't at ALL hoping to imply that we were here because of the Universe wanting(which might be an emotional response)-us to be here.

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    Feel me?
    Peace
     

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