this thread is filled with femamen, this thread is good. we should be proud to be men. nowdays it seems that some people are trying to make men feel ashamed to be men. in modern society we are supposed to act more like little women. well all i have to say to that is, see the post above and take a good look at the lords huge penis. and if you possibly can, suck on that bitches. peace.
mountainhare: The same comment applies. Thinking you are special and deserve praise just because you're white, or just because you're a woman, or just because you're gay, or whatever, is a lazy pride, built on the false assumption that the world somehow owes you a living just for being you. Perhaps. What role do you play in the biosystem? If you died tomorrow, would it make much difference to the biosystem? I'm not convinced that if I disappeared the world would notice the loss greatly. Why? You did nothing to ensure you were white. What's to be proud of when no effort or achievement is involved? Ditto. No. There's nothing wrong with being a white male. Just don't think it makes you better than other people who don't happen to be white males. Note that I never said you should be ashamed of being who you are - not for any features you had no choice in, anyway. It depends how you define dominance, I guess. I think bacteria give humanity a good run for its money in terms of dominating the planet. Are you also proud of the fact that your sex has "dominated" the statistics in murder, rape, violence of all kinds, and has produced the greatest output of serial killers, totalitarian dictators, genocidaires etc.? Yes, because the only way society could become more equal was for men in power positions to recognise the unfairness of inequality and do something about it. Women couldn't do it on their own. I'll be happy to argue with you any time about whether, in general, women or men are more fairly portrayed in the media. But that's probably a topic for another thread. Would you advocate a more or less perpetual state of warfare then, as often occurs in tribal societies? Do you think that would produce a better society?
good thinking!! women hate being told what to do by men, and we always will. we have our own minds aswell let us use them men!!
James R: I disagree. I'm not saying that being a white male means that the world 'owes me a living'. However, I am proud of what I am. Pride =/= looking down on others. You say that 'gay pride', 'woman's pride', 'black pride' etc etc. are just as fallacious as 'white' and/or 'male' pride. Yet society seems far less accepting of white/male pride, than woman/black/gay pride. Why is this? Why is it socially acceptable to scream "Wom*n power!", but not "White power!"? Creator, thinker, scholar. Are you against patriotism, as well? So 'gay pride' individuals think that they are better than heterosexuals? 'Woman's pride' individuals think they are better than men? etc etc. If that is so, why is having 'woman's pride' socially acceptable, whereas male pride is not? Not proud, but not ashamed. Warfare and interspecies violence are necessary for a healthy species, and a healthy Earth. I don't like it, but then again, I'm not meant to like it. Precisely. So why do feminists continually slag men, when it was men who not only conceived the notion of equality and a fair go, but also put it into practice? When men humbled themselves and willing stepped down from their position at the helm? How often in history do certain privileged segments of society willingly give away their power, in order to produce a more equal civilization for all? I advocate conflict when it is necessary to cull the weak and keep the population at a managable size.
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!, i learned the word vegansexual the other day, and i was just itching to use it somewhere. peace.
most dominant... well, we are probably more powerful and capable by now than dinosaurs were at their prime. Right?
lystrosaurus was the most successful large land animal in terms of numbers, i wqas watching it on "walking with monsters" i love the "walking with" series. they were a herd animal that lived before dinosaurs, just after scootasaurus (i dont know if im spelling these right by the way). they were half reptile half mammal species. not quite classed as either. they lived on the mega continent gondwana/pangea (is there a difference with the 2?) also insects are pretty powerful for thier size and number ratio. they do better than us mammals anyway. also the ancient super predators of the sea are amazingly powerful, and much bigger than any little T-rex or even a diplodocus. peace.
mountainhare: I can only repeat that I'm puzzled that you could consider a feature you had no role in acquiring to be a source of pride. Or is it more a vicarious thing - that you're proud of what other people who you consider to be like you have done, rather than being proud of what you personally have done? When women shout about "wom*n power", they mostly seem to mean sexual equality. But when the KKK shouts about "white power", they mean something entirely different - dominance over and subjugation of people considered "inferior". It's a historical thing, I guess. We've seen where cries of "white power" have led in the past. I am certainly wary of it. Patriotism is again a form of pride - this time in a nation - which seems to spring from happening to live there or being born there. Like race or sex, it is more or less accidental, in most cases. The worst forms of patriotism can lead to either totalitarianism, in which the state is taken as a legitimate controller of all aspects of the lives of its citizens, and/or to nationalism, in which the interests of a particular nation are automatically put first, when balanced against the interests of all other nations or peoples. For example, look at the ugly "patriotism" exhibited by the Crunulla rioters. Some do, no doubt. As I said, it's a historical thing. We can look at where expressions of that "pride" have led to in the past, and judge. I disagree with you that war and violence are necessary. What makes you think they are? Men didn't conceive of it. That's like claiming that slaves never conceived of the idea that they might be free. More often than we might expect - which gives me some hope for humanity. Often, such movements are led by people who have the luxury of being able to look at the big picture in a dispassionate way, rather than through the lens of their own selfish interests. Who's going to determine who is "the weak"? You?
It seems that your post exemplifies one reason that 'pride' is considered a sin. You take credit for that which is none of your accomplishment; like 'plagiarism'.. What have you had to do with the genetic happenstance of being a 'male'? 'Proud' of your hair color too? Eye color? Pfft! Generally, traditionally, 'pride' was supposed to be 'felt' for a personal accomplishment, usually involving overcomming great adversity to accomplish something 'positive'! How degraded the concept of 'pride' has become. As your post exemplifies.
