As this is a philosophical question, this has nothing to do at all with pressure waves, or whether or not they hit your ear. It is not a scientific question, thus these notions are meaningless in this context. My answer: Butterfly effect. Whether or not you (or any person) is present to witness an event, it still did happen, as the future is irrevocably changed by the event, and the effects run far and wide and fanning out exponentially, affecting everything behind it. Yes. It most certainly makes a sound. One tree falling changes the world.
Any words you describe that event are misleading however. To say it made a sound is misleading. The words were made to describe situations where subject and object are present. They lose meaning when referring to a situation where there was no experiencer. To paraphrase Wittgenstein: we oughtta be silent about it.
So. If there's no one present to hear the eruption of a volcano (or the blast like resulted from the meteror/comet in the Ukrane) then the pressure wave created has NO effect. Right? After all, it was just sound and no one heard it. :bugeye:
Semantics, shemantics. Arguing over what the word "sound" means is pretty pointless. How about "noise", "flash", and "light"? If lightning strikes and no one is there to hear it or see it... Does it make a flash? Does it make light? Does it make noise? Now there's a useful discussion. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
well, here's my 2 cents worth: no, the tree doesn't make a sound but it does produce the sound waves. how's that?
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I would think that was quite obvious (if you notice, I did not claim otherwise) and being that this is a discussion forum, I decided to join in the discussion and share my opinion. That is what a discussion IS - the sharing and conversing about differing opinions. Do you have a problem with me taking part in this discussion?
Not at all but you seem to think that your view is a view that is widely held. I do believe that many other views are just as good as yours and just wanted to mention it.
I do think it is widely held - in fact I am quite sure of it - that does not mean that other opinions are not valid, or even that I am "right" if there even can be a "right" in a philosophical discussion.
It doesnt matter the dick will still argue the toss for the sake of it. Even the ones that can differentiate with summation.
yeah, that avatar of yours is vile, disgusting, evil, unpaid for, nasty, ugly, fat, and looks hideous.
"Unpaid for"? What do you mean by that? Charles Manson may have been vile, disgusting, evil, nasty, ugly and hideous looking, but he wasn't fat.
huh? did i say something? charles manson !? who's that? well it doesn't matter. that avatar looks like a clown throwup. it smells like unwashed 10 day old underwear. gag, puke, snort.
why thank you kind sir! may your avatar eat shit and die. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Actually, Raven is right, Cosmos. A few years ago I became "emotionally" attached to a lone tree standing high in a field overlooking the airfield here, where I live. I'm not sure how it happened, perhaps it was when I climbed her many years earlier, and experienced again the thrill of youth. But a few years ago, after I had moved here and began visiting the airfield again, she had lost the branch that had once enabled me to reach up and pull myself over. But I use to visit her anyway, or acknowledge her presence whenever I passed by in the vicinity. She was beautiful, and I always felt an exuberance or peaceful reassurance whenever I saw her. Then one day, a bulldozer uprooted her, making way for a parking lot. I never saw her fall. My world changed. Forever.
I catch it before it hits and use it as toilet paper! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!